Juliana L Holm

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Juliana L Holm writes:

    >> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.

    > I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
    > do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
    > countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.

Hmm. I disagree.

I think many people think of England as being in Europe.

--
Julie
**********
Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm

Wolfgang Schwanke

Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

[Paris]

    > No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who
    > have never been to Europe.

By the way: Why? Is it because of all those movies set in Paris?

Regards

--
Lichtenrade, Birkenwerder, Blankenfelde, Halensee
Jungfernheide, Schöneweide, Schönerlinde, Schlachtensee

http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de

Wolfgang Schwanke

Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
news[email protected]:

    >> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
    >> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
    >> in two weeks.
    >
    > For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.

My image from US television is all those wonderful well-off families like
in the "Brady Bunch", "I dream of Jeannie" and "Flipper". Please don't say
that's not what America is like!

BTW we have our own television programmes, and some of them are
documentaries about America.

Regards

--
Lichtenrade, Birkenwerder, Blankenfelde, Halensee
Jungfernheide, Schöneweide, Schönerlinde, Schlachtensee

http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de

Magda

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:34:57 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Wolfgang Schwanke
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
... news[email protected]:
...
... >> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
... >> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
... >> in two weeks.
... >
... > For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.
...
... My image from US television is all those wonderful well-off families like
... in the "Brady Bunch", "I dream of Jeannie" and "Flipper". Please don't say
... that's not what America is like!
...
... BTW we have our own television programmes, and some of them are
... documentaries about America.

Today I saw one about Portugal & Lisbon - lovely !

Go Fig

In article <[email protected]>, Wolfgang Schwanke
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    > > We have "Rick Steves' Travels in Europe". Do you hve something
    > > like "Hans Schmidt's Travels in America"?
    >
    > "Bilder aus der Neuen Welt" ("Images from the New World") in the 1950s. A
    > correspondent who would let viewers marvel at how the American families
    > lived in the countryside, where every family owned a car and a dishwasher
    > and where the post boxes looked funny.

In the 50s-60s there was a travel show called "Three passports to
Adventure", IIRC. They were a German American family who traveled
Europe making travelogs. It was probably one of the first travel shows
in the U.S.

jay
Wed Mar 10, 2004
mailto:[email protected]


    >
    > Later I dimly remember a regular programme "Ein Bayer in New York" ("A
    > Bavarian in New York"). In one episode he showed us how many things he
    > could order on the phone without leaving the house, everything from food to
    > manicure and I believe there was a musical band. In another he presented
    > all the cable TV channels he could get. An unforgettable one was "WDOG", a
    > dog television channel. That was in the 1970s when we had 3 channels
    > nationwide. Now we're nearly there ourselves ... no dog channel yet,
    > though.
    >
    > Of course there are political commentaries and background information all
    > the time.
    >
    > Regards

Keeger

Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Juliana L Holm writes:
    >>> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
    >> I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
    >> do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
    >> countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
    >Hmm. I disagree.
    >I think many people think of England as being in Europe.

I think it depends if one is thinking geographically or culturally.

K
http://www.regimechangeusa.org/

Wolfgang Schwanke

Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > We have "Rick Steves' Travels in Europe". Do you hve something
    > like "Hans Schmidt's Travels in America"?

"Bilder aus der Neuen Welt" ("Images from the New World") in the 1950s. A
correspondent who would let viewers marvel at how the American families
lived in the countryside, where every family owned a car and a dishwasher
and where the post boxes looked funny.

Later I dimly remember a regular programme "Ein Bayer in New York" ("A
Bavarian in New York"). In one episode he showed us how many things he
could order on the phone without leaving the house, everything from food to
manicure and I believe there was a musical band. In another he presented
all the cable TV channels he could get. An unforgettable one was "WDOG", a
dog television channel. That was in the 1970s when we had 3 channels
nationwide. Now we're nearly there ourselves ... no dog channel yet,
though.

Of course there are political commentaries and background information all
the time.

Regards

--
Lichtenrade, Birkenwerder, Blankenfelde, Halensee
Jungfernheide, Schöneweide, Schönerlinde, Schlachtensee

http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de

Juliana L Holm

Keeger <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>I think many people think of England as being in Europe.

    > I think it depends if one is thinking geographically or culturally.

Yes, of course, but we're talking travel here. I think when planning a first
trip to Europe, the great majority of Americans think "England" as part of that
trip.
--
Julie
**********
Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm

Jens Arne Maennig

Hatunen wrote:
    > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:26:00 +0100, Jens Arne Maennig
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Gordon Forbess wrote:

    >>> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
    >>> in two weeks.
    >>Actually, I've been to all of the above :-)
    >
    > In two weeks?

Let me guess: In about 12 years.

Jens

Jens Arne Maennig

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:

    > My image from US television is all those wonderful well-off families
    > like in the "Brady Bunch", "I dream of Jeannie" and "Flipper".
    > Please don't say that's not what America is like!

The first two women I really believed I fell in love with where Uhura
and Jeannie. I really missed their abilities on al my later (European)
girlfriends.

Jens

Douglas W. Hoyt

<< (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
    >>>>>> Actually, I've been to all of the above :-)

I think if you go to Disney World (or Las Vegas for that matter) you can
already do ALL of them in one shot. Not only that, but you can do Europe
and Persia as well without ever having to leave the premises.

Sascha

    > Sorry for being confusing.
    > Julie
You were not at all confusing,
reading right isn't everyone's cup of tea.

Sascha

    > That was in the 1970s when we had 3 channels
    > nationwide.

Those were the days...
in fact, those were the salad days of German TV

Now we're nearly there ourselves ...

yes, with 15 channels of shit to choose from

    >no dog channel yet,
    > though.

the missing heap


Sascha

Devil

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:21:54 +0000, nick wrote:

    > well this post needs a Korean language pack in OE. I assume its html.

Her post was plain text.

As Dave mentioned, she accidentally specified a Korean character set in
the content-type header:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR

But since she didn't really use any Korean character in her article, it
should have been fine. Sounds like your newsreader must be seriously
brain-damaged? Let me guess, some microsoft stuff maybe?

Devil

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 21:28:05 +0000, Juliana L Holm wrote:

    > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Juliana L Holm writes:
    >
    >>> And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.
    >
    >> I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
    >> do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
    >> countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.
    >
    > Hmm. I disagree.
    >
    > I think many people think of England as being in Europe.

Including even many Brits, I would think.