Juliana L Holm

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I am posting from tin in
plain text, from an American university, and I don't have a clue why
Korean would be happening.

Anyone else seeing either html or korean?

Julie

Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
    > pmlt <[email protected]> wrote:

    >>>No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
    >>>never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
    >>>Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?

    >> Freiburg? In Baden Wurthemberg? Are you sure this is a top
    >> destination? I was there during 4 hours and got bored with nothing to
    >> see. Did I miss it all?


    > Goodness not a top destination. Just a very interesting one that most Americans
    > have never heard of. I'm sorry I was not more clear on that. I meant to
    > say I'd list several other interesting cities, not necessarily top cities.

    > Top cities most Americans have heard of. :-)

    > To keep up the comparison, Freiburg is probably comparable to, say, Hmmmm,
    > Charleston SC. An interesting city, but I bet few Europeans have heard of
    > it. Or Santa Fe, NM.

    > Sorry for being confusing.

    > Julie


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On 10 Mar 2004 19:34:38 GMT, Juliana L Holm <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I am posting from tin in
    >plain text, from an American university, and I don't have a clue why
    >Korean would be happening.
    >Anyone else seeing either html or korean?
    >Julie
    >Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> pmlt <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
    >>>>never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
    >>>>Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
    >>> Freiburg? In Baden Wurthemberg? Are you sure this is a top
    >>> destination? I was there during 4 hours and got bored with nothing to
    >>> see. Did I miss it all?
    >> Goodness not a top destination. Just a very interesting one that most Americans
    >> have never heard of. I'm sorry I was not more clear on that. I meant to
    >> say I'd list several other interesting cities, not necessarily top cities.
    >> Top cities most Americans have heard of. :-)
    >> To keep up the comparison, Freiburg is probably comparable to, say, Hmmmm,
    >> Charleston SC. An interesting city, but I bet few Europeans have heard of
    >> it. Or Santa Fe, NM.
    >> Sorry for being confusing.
    >> Julie
    >> --
    >> Julie
    >> **********
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    >> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm

Mxsmanic

Juliana L Holm writes:

    > And for Americans who view any European Television at all, Europe is England.

I don't think that Americans perceive England as part of Europe (neither
do many people in England, for that matter). "Europe" means the other
countries where English is not spoken. England is a special case.

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that post is text, the other two were rich text (html)


"Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I am posting from tin in
    > plain text, from an American university, and I don't have a clue why
    > Korean would be happening.
    > Anyone else seeing either html or korean?
    > Julie
    > Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > pmlt <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>>No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
    > >>>never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
    > >>>Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
    > >> Freiburg? In Baden Wurthemberg? Are you sure this is a top
    > >> destination? I was there during 4 hours and got bored with nothing to
    > >> see. Did I miss it all?
    > > Goodness not a top destination. Just a very interesting one that most Americans
    > > have never heard of. I'm sorry I was not more clear on that. I meant to
    > > say I'd list several other interesting cities, not necessarily top cities.
    > > Top cities most Americans have heard of. :-)
    > > To keep up the comparison, Freiburg is probably comparable to, say, Hmmmm,
    > > Charleston SC. An interesting city, but I bet few Europeans have heard of
    > > it. Or Santa Fe, NM.
    > > Sorry for being confusing.
    > > Julie
    > > --
    > > Julie
    > > **********
    > > Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
    > > http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm
    > --
    > Julie
    > **********
    > Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
    > http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm

Markku Grönroos

"Juliana L Holm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I am posting from tin in
    > plain text, from an American university, and I don't have a clue why
    > Korean would be happening.
    > Anyone else seeing either html or korean?
No worries. You are in text mode 7-bit ascii now. You had for some reason
korean table active in some previous letters.

Hatunen

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:26:00 +0100, Jens Arne Maennig
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Gordon Forbess wrote:
    >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:34:41 +0100, Jens Arne Maennig
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>In 1920, the German author Kurt Tucholsky wrote that some typical words
    >>>of Americans in Europe were
    >>>| Nach Börlin besuchen wir noch Europa, Persien und Heidelberg
    >>>(After Berlin, we will also visit Europe, Persia and Heidelberg)
    >>
    >> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
    >> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
    >> in two weeks.
    >Actually, I've been to all of the above :-)

In two weeks?


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Hatunen

On 10 Mar 2004 19:34:38 GMT, Juliana L Holm <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I am posting from tin in
    >plain text, from an American university, and I don't have a clue why
    >Korean would be happening.
    >Anyone else seeing either html or korean?

For thsi post, at least, your headers say:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII


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Hatunen

On 10 Mar 2004 16:02:14 GMT, Juliana L Holm <[email protected]>
wrote:

The headers in this post say:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR

So, somehow, you are invoking the Korean charset, although your
post itself seems to be in ASCII.

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Hatunen

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:29:52 +0100, Wolfgang Schwanke
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote in
    >news:[email protected]:
    >[Paris]
    >> No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who
    >> have never been to Europe.
    >By the way: Why? Is it because of all those movies set in Paris?

Thus it has been for a very long time. Remember the post-WW1
song: "How Ya Gonna Keep 'em Down on the Farm (After They've Seen
Paree)?"?

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Hatunen

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:34:57 +0100, Wolfgang Schwanke
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
    >news[email protected]:
    >>> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
    >>> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
    >>> in two weeks.
    >>
    >> For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.
    >My image from US television is all those wonderful well-off families like
    >in the "Brady Bunch", "I dream of Jeannie" and "Flipper". Please don't say
    >that's not what America is like!

Even we Americans made fun of them at the time.

(What did Ozzie Nelson do for a living, anyway?)

    >BTW we have our own television programmes, and some of them are
    >documentaries about America.

We have "Rick Steves' Travels in Europe". Do you hve something
like "Hans Schmidt's Travels in America"?

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Keith Anderson

On 10 Mar 2004 19:34:38 GMT, Juliana L Holm <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I am posting from tin in
    >plain text, from an American university, and I don't have a clue why
    >Korean would be happening.
    >Anyone else seeing either html or korean?

Reading it loud and clear on Forté Agent with absolutely no problems
whatsoever.
    >Julie
    >Juliana L Holm <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> pmlt <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who have
    >>>>never been to Europe. I'd list several other cities, including ones (Freiburg,
    >>>>Germany comes to mind) that most Americans would reply to saying Where?
    >>> Freiburg? In Baden Wurthemberg? Are you sure this is a top
    >>> destination? I was there during 4 hours and got bored with nothing to
    >>> see. Did I miss it all?
    >> Goodness not a top destination. Just a very interesting one that most Americans
    >> have never heard of. I'm sorry I was not more clear on that. I meant to
    >> say I'd list several other interesting cities, not necessarily top cities.
    >> Top cities most Americans have heard of. :-)
    >> To keep up the comparison, Freiburg is probably comparable to, say, Hmmmm,
    >> Charleston SC. An interesting city, but I bet few Europeans have heard of
    >> it. Or Santa Fe, NM.
    >> Sorry for being confusing.
    >> Julie
    >> --
    >> Julie
    >> **********
    >> Check out my Travel Pages (non-commercial) at
    >> http://www.dragonsholm.org/travel.htm

Go Fig

In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:34:57 +0100, Wolfgang Schwanke
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
    > >news[email protected]:
    > >
    > >>> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
    > >>> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
    > >>> in two weeks.
    > >>
    > >> For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.
    > >
    > >My image from US television is all those wonderful well-off families like
    > >in the "Brady Bunch", "I dream of Jeannie" and "Flipper". Please don't say
    > >that's not what America is like!
    >
    > Even we Americans made fun of them at the time.
    >
    > (What did Ozzie Nelson do for a living, anyway?)

He was an lawyer and I think as well on the show. I saw David Nelson
on TV the other week... he is now 67y.o.. ;-(

jay
Wed Mar 10, 2004
mailto:[email protected]


    >
    > >BTW we have our own television programmes, and some of them are
    > >documentaries about America.
    >
    > We have "Rick Steves' Travels in Europe". Do you hve something
    > like "Hans Schmidt's Travels in America"?
    >
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Hatunen

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:36:13 -0800, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>, Hatunen
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:34:57 +0100, Wolfgang Schwanke
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote in
    >> >news[email protected]:
    >> >
    >> >>> Perhaps this is where so many Germans got the idea they can see the US
    >> >>> (New York, Disney World, Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon, and Hollywood)
    >> >>> in two weeks.
    >> >>
    >> >> For anyone raised on U.S. television programs, that _is_ the U.S.
    >> >
    >> >My image from US television is all those wonderful well-off families like
    >> >in the "Brady Bunch", "I dream of Jeannie" and "Flipper". Please don't say
    >> >that's not what America is like!
    >>
    >> Even we Americans made fun of them at the time.
    >>
    >> (What did Ozzie Nelson do for a living, anyway?)
    >He was an lawyer and I think as well on the show.

Uh. Ozzie Nelson was a bandleader in the 1930s and 1940s (Ricky
got his musical talent naturally), and Harriet Hillyard was his
"canary". Ozzie's band played on the radio a lot, and somehow he
got his own radio program (with Harriet) in the 1940s. Ricky and
David were played by actors at first.

But it was never clear what Ozzie's occupation was on the
programs.


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Juliana L Holm

Wolfgang Schwanke <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> No, but it is THE City, arguably that is enthralling to Americans who
    >> have never been to Europe.

    > By the way: Why? Is it because of all those movies set in Paris?

I think that is part of that.

It is considered a very romantic city in the US.

I will admit my first European trip, only 8 days long, was to London and
Paris. Part of that was that I had studied French in High school.

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Bb

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:28:45 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
    > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:34:57 +0100, Wolfgang Schwanke

    >>My image from US television is all those wonderful well-off families like
    >>in the "Brady Bunch", "I dream of Jeannie" and "Flipper". Please don't say
    >>that's not what America is like!
    >
    > Even we Americans made fun of them at the time.

I don't know that the lifestyles themselves were particularly wrong, just
that no one in America was really as goofy-happy as people in many of
those shows. Their "problems" tended to be trivial and/or unreal. That's
probably for a reason - nobody wants to see a "Marsha gets diarrhea"
episode.

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