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Old May 10th 2016, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by AllanB
The issue of trust relates to the country's legal system where lawyers can run off with your money and that local councils can give your land to someone else and you no longer own your property.

Portugal and France have systems where these things cannot occur, the UK too.

Spain is not better/worse when it comes to these things and millions of people do not have the issues you mentioned. You just hear less in Portugal, because it's a smaller country and you have less foreign buyers. The council can also take your land in the UK if it was never legally yours and if they want to build a motorway you only get the market value.
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Originally Posted by mfesharne
Quite honestly I fail to see how anyone can claim Portugal property prices are expensive.

We all have to cut our cloth etc but as an example, there's a 2 bedroom place for sale close to me that detached, edge of village, ready to move into with enough space for a garage and a veggie patch for something in the region of €45k

Price comparison here: Price per Square Meter Europe | European Cost per Square Meter
That sounds interesting Mac, do you have details you could forward to me, perhaps PM? Appreciate that......
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Originally Posted by AllanB
That sounds interesting Mac, do you have details you could forward to me, perhaps PM? Appreciate that......

Those links are always pretty misleading. To actually compare property prices, you would need a lot more factors. No doubt you can find old houses for under 50K, but you can find them in most countries.
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Old May 10th 2016, 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by AllanB
That sounds interesting Mac, do you have details you could forward to me, perhaps PM? Appreciate that......
PM sent but please let me know if it arrives with you.
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
Those links are always pretty misleading. To actually compare property prices, you would need a lot more factors. No doubt you can find old houses for under 50K, but you can find them in most countries.
Do you own a property in Spain or Portugal.
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Do you own a property in Spain or Portugal.
Yep, in Spain.
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Yep, in Spain.

That explains everything.Is it in Ayomonte by any chance ?
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That explains everything.Is it in Ayomonte by any chance ?

No, Girona province. Ayamonte wouldn't be my cup of tea, but I'm sure it's not too bad there.
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
Spain is not better/worse when it comes to these things and millions of people do not have the issues you mentioned. You just hear less in Portugal, because it's a smaller country and you have less foreign buyers. The council can also take your land in the UK if it was never legally yours and if they want to build a motorway you only get the market value.
Google LRAU Spain & you'll find a VERY different story.
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Originally Posted by mfesharne
Google LRAU Spain & you'll find a VERY different story.
Can do the same for Portugal. It happened a lot in Andalucía and Valencia, but unheard of in plenty of regions in Spain.


Whilst the Land Grab Law understandably attracted a lot of bad press the actual number of times that it has occurred is relatively small. What is clear however is that many of those affected have purchased Rural land without obtaining advice from a competent independent lawyer as to the potential risks and liabilities.
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Default Re: Looking to move to Portugal for spring/summers

Originally Posted by Moses2013
Can do the same for Portugal. It happened a lot in Andalucía and Valencia, but unheard of in plenty of regions in Spain.


Whilst the Land Grab Law understandably attracted a lot of bad press the actual number of times that it has occurred is relatively small. What is clear however is that many of those affected have purchased Rural land without obtaining advice from a competent independent lawyer as to the potential risks and liabilities.
Surly that is the whole point, when you come to a new country nativity is an issue. Knowing who is competent and honest, well it is a problem if the law doesn't protect you. In the UK, France and I think Portugal that is the case, but in Spain crooked lawyers can and do operate and there are more lawyers per capita there than any other country.

Okay these fiddles may only effect a small proportion of cases, but in many cases we are talking life savings, stress and devastated lives and that scares me for one. I would not want to live in such a country.
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Default Re: Looking to move to Portugal for spring/summers

Originally Posted by AllanB
Surly that is the whole point, when you come to a new country nativity is an issue. Knowing who is competent and honest, well it is a problem if the law doesn't protect you. In the UK, France and I think Portugal that is the case, but in Spain crooked lawyers can and do operate and there are more lawyers per capita there than any other country.

Okay these fiddles may only effect a small proportion of cases, but in many cases we are talking life savings, stress and devastated lives and that scares me for one. I would not want to live in such a country.

No offence, but believing you are safe from these things in Portugal is naïve. Google land grab in Portugal and you'll find similar stories. The point is that you can get ripped off anywhere and you're not safer buying in Portugal. If the land was classed as urban, you'll never have a problem with land grab and just have to do your homework like you'd do in the UK.
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
No offence, but believing you are safe from these things in Portugal is naïve. Google land grab in Portugal and you'll find similar stories. The point is that you can get ripped off anywhere and you're not safer buying in Portugal. If the land was classed as urban, you'll never have a problem with land grab and just have to do your homework like you'd do in the UK.
Those stories are total crap there is no evidence to substantiate them.
Just look at the dates and the sources of your googled claims.
Just admit that you are promoting Spain, nothing to be ashamed of.
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Those stories are total crap there is no evidence to substantiate them.
Just look at the dates and the sources of your googled claims.
Just admit that you are promoting Spain, nothing to be ashamed of.
Not promoting Spain and think Portugal has it good parts and bad parts like any country. The point is that you are not safer buying in Portugal and you will find corruption, just like you would in Spain.
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Default Re: Looking to move to Portugal for spring/summers

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No offence, but believing you are safe from these things in Portugal is naïve. Google land grab in Portugal and you'll find similar stories. The point is that you can get ripped off anywhere and you're not safer buying in Portugal. If the land was classed as urban, you'll never have a problem with land grab and just have to do your homework like you'd do in the UK.
Look, no offence, but I don't come onto Spanish ex-pat websites promoting Portugal. Most people here are well aware of Spain and have rejected it as a place to live, for a multitude of reasons, so you'll win no battles and gain no converts.

Portugal has never had the issues that Spain has had regarding property - and whether or not it is confined to particular regions is of little comfort to those who lost out. Enjoy your life there and we'll stay on the better side of the border.
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