Philippines More Racist?
Jun 20th 2018, 3:44 pm
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I’m glad to say that our experience has been quite the opposite. When we were looking for a property to rent, locals in general and landlords were doing everything possible to help us, with the latter keen as mustard to rent out to us. Perhaps there was an element of hoping to get a higher rent from foreigners but I’d hardly class that as racism but more a case of opportunism. Staying on the racism issue that you raised, my wife and I find that on a regular basis we seem to get special treatment at banks, malls and other organisations, purely because we are white foreigners; it borders on positive discrimination at times. As mentioned by another member, your budget of between Php 2 to 4K is on the low side so that certainly won’t help matters in your search for a rental property. Why should that matter you ask, well, it’s more about expectations of what a foreigner can afford, but again, not racism. By the way, in case you’re unaware of it, you do project some negative ‘vibes’ in your posts. With respect, if you come across like that when you interact with the Filipino community, it’s hardly surprising that you’ve encountered difficulties.
Jun 20th 2018, 3:51 pm
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Certainly agree that the OPs unrealistically low rental budget is at the root of the problems he says he is facing.
But racism a daily difficulty here? And for "most of us"? It might be relevant to know if "us" refers just to immediate family or to a wider group of people of some sort?
Past colonisation, brutal at times, by mostly white Spanish and Americans, even Brits for a few weeks.. influxes of lighter coloured Chinese, Koreans and white Expat Retirees. All of this seems not to have affected the Filipinos' accommodating, friendly behaviour towards foreigners, at least in the experience of all those,some with long experience of living and visiting here, who have replied so far to the OPs question. Recent strong foreign criticism of the President seems also not have had any effect...although that may change somewhat if ICC proceedings proceed further.
Yes, as in any other country there are some rough areas, with high crime among other undesirable things. So probably the only sense in which a white person would suffer racial discrimination if one resided in one of those areas is that the local burglars might prefer to target you as they would assume you had plenty worth taking in your house or on your person.
But racism a daily difficulty here? And for "most of us"? It might be relevant to know if "us" refers just to immediate family or to a wider group of people of some sort?
Past colonisation, brutal at times, by mostly white Spanish and Americans, even Brits for a few weeks.. influxes of lighter coloured Chinese, Koreans and white Expat Retirees. All of this seems not to have affected the Filipinos' accommodating, friendly behaviour towards foreigners, at least in the experience of all those,some with long experience of living and visiting here, who have replied so far to the OPs question. Recent strong foreign criticism of the President seems also not have had any effect...although that may change somewhat if ICC proceedings proceed further.
Yes, as in any other country there are some rough areas, with high crime among other undesirable things. So probably the only sense in which a white person would suffer racial discrimination if one resided in one of those areas is that the local burglars might prefer to target you as they would assume you had plenty worth taking in your house or on your person.
Jun 20th 2018, 3:54 pm
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So because I choose to pay more money for a nice place, you are saying I am a criminal? Other users said that my prices are too low in Duterte's booming economy. You sir, are also reported. Good luck being permanently <<<SNIP>>>
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Jun 20th 2018, 3:57 pm
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It can certainly be a challenge. Probably the biggest. Worse than pollution, traffic, typhoons, and floods. Racism is the biggest challenge. What is PC?
Jun 20th 2018, 4:05 pm
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I live in a jungle village in Western Visayas 30Km from a supermarket or doctors surgery. A 2 room ( 1 bed/1 small living room approx 25/30m2 ) unfurnished mini house with toilet ( no shower ) will cost minimum Php3,500 a month. I think your expectation of getting something in Manila/Cebu is a bit unrealistic.
Jun 20th 2018, 6:19 pm
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I live in a jungle village in Western Visayas 30Km from a supermarket or doctors surgery. A 2 room ( 1 bed/1 small living room approx 25/30m2 ) unfurnished mini house with toilet ( no shower ) will cost minimum Php3,500 a month. I think your expectation of getting something in Manila/Cebu is a bit unrealistic.
Jun 20th 2018, 11:23 pm
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I believe that someone is telling Porkies regarding the cost of rent in Manila. Maybe at that low price it was a space in the cemetery in Tondo.
Jun 21st 2018, 12:47 am
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Liam,
You state you have been here for a year now. I find your complete negativity and lack of knowledge baffling. Regarding the cost of cheap accommodation I can advice that my Filipino relatives took accommodation in Manila whilst having to comply with the USA medical procedures. The rent for a one bed no facilities was 4K a month. They had previously lived in the same road and were friends of the landlord.I should emphasis that a westerner would not be comfortable with that property.
i have been visiting the Philippines for over 25 years and have found the economic changes starting. On our earlier visits there were only two classes of Filipino, stinking rich and extremely poverty stricken. Fast forward there is now a definitive middle class.If you care to look around and see all the new motors, the proliferation of expensive sub divisions, full restaurants,etc. It should be obvious the Philippines is becoming more affluent, particularly in the large cities. For the provinces, wealth is trickling down, on our early visits, a humble motor cycle was very rarely seen, now virtually everyone has one. I could give you many examples of the economic changes here, however you should explore and digest these for yourself.
You state you have been here for a year now. I find your complete negativity and lack of knowledge baffling. Regarding the cost of cheap accommodation I can advice that my Filipino relatives took accommodation in Manila whilst having to comply with the USA medical procedures. The rent for a one bed no facilities was 4K a month. They had previously lived in the same road and were friends of the landlord.I should emphasis that a westerner would not be comfortable with that property.
i have been visiting the Philippines for over 25 years and have found the economic changes starting. On our earlier visits there were only two classes of Filipino, stinking rich and extremely poverty stricken. Fast forward there is now a definitive middle class.If you care to look around and see all the new motors, the proliferation of expensive sub divisions, full restaurants,etc. It should be obvious the Philippines is becoming more affluent, particularly in the large cities. For the provinces, wealth is trickling down, on our early visits, a humble motor cycle was very rarely seen, now virtually everyone has one. I could give you many examples of the economic changes here, however you should explore and digest these for yourself.
Jun 21st 2018, 1:22 am
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Liam,
You state you have been here for a year now. I find your complete negativity and lack of knowledge baffling. Regarding the cost of cheap accommodation I can advice that my Filipino relatives took accommodation in Manila whilst having to comply with the USA medical procedures. The rent for a one bed no facilities was 4K a month. They had previously lived in the same road and were friends of the landlord.I should emphasis that a westerner would not be comfortable with that property.
i have been visiting the Philippines for over 25 years and have found the economic changes starting. On our earlier visits there were only two classes of Filipino, stinking rich and extremely poverty stricken. Fast forward there is now a definitive middle class.If you care to look around and see all the new motors, the proliferation of expensive sub divisions, full restaurants,etc. It should be obvious the Philippines is becoming more affluent, particularly in the large cities. For the provinces, wealth is trickling down, on our early visits, a humble motor cycle was very rarely seen, now virtually everyone has one. I could give you many examples of the economic changes here, however you should explore and digest these for yourself.
You state you have been here for a year now. I find your complete negativity and lack of knowledge baffling. Regarding the cost of cheap accommodation I can advice that my Filipino relatives took accommodation in Manila whilst having to comply with the USA medical procedures. The rent for a one bed no facilities was 4K a month. They had previously lived in the same road and were friends of the landlord.I should emphasis that a westerner would not be comfortable with that property.
i have been visiting the Philippines for over 25 years and have found the economic changes starting. On our earlier visits there were only two classes of Filipino, stinking rich and extremely poverty stricken. Fast forward there is now a definitive middle class.If you care to look around and see all the new motors, the proliferation of expensive sub divisions, full restaurants,etc. It should be obvious the Philippines is becoming more affluent, particularly in the large cities. For the provinces, wealth is trickling down, on our early visits, a humble motor cycle was very rarely seen, now virtually everyone has one. I could give you many examples of the economic changes here, however you should explore and digest these for yourself.
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Jun 21st 2018, 3:40 am
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...but if you go for that just be ready to vacate your unit at short notice so those who "resisted" at the previous night's drugs buy/bust operation can be accommodated!
Jun 21st 2018, 7:23 am
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Liam neeson clearly a troll has re juvenated the cold threads as likes to hear the sound of his own voice.
Asks 'do we live here', why? because we tell it as it is not as he thinks it is.
I never said you were doing anything illegal just commenting on your opening posts suggesting that those who do live here may be doing things not legal.
Asks 'do we live here', why? because we tell it as it is not as he thinks it is.
I never said you were doing anything illegal just commenting on your opening posts suggesting that those who do live here may be doing things not legal.
Jun 21st 2018, 7:26 am
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PC, politically correct/correctness, please excuse me for assuming everyone knew that.
Jun 21st 2018, 7:36 am
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Pinoy pride and nationalism do not go together very well.
That does not make them racist, just nationalistic
The culture of me, myself and I means that they take advantage of situations irrespective of their intended victims nationality. They will happily treat their own as badly as it takes to get what they want. we are not so special in this regard, some just like to think we are.
That does not make them racist, just nationalistic
The culture of me, myself and I means that they take advantage of situations irrespective of their intended victims nationality. They will happily treat their own as badly as it takes to get what they want. we are not so special in this regard, some just like to think we are.
Jun 21st 2018, 9:57 am
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This discussion has made me think how lucky we are that the administration here isn't able to use the fear or hatred of foreigners, as it is a strong card in the playbook of nearly all of the current "new wave"of populist leaders in Europe and the US. At the time when the previous US President made some strong criticisms of the Drugs War the general population here did not show any enthusiasm to join in and support attempts to stoke up anti-American sentiment from government supporters.
I also think that even if the regime here will face serious action from any or all of the ICC,EU and the UN few here would connect us with those bodies, as most here are ignorant of those organisations, what they are and what they do.
Still, when an authoritarian populist cannot use one group to blame for a country's problems and to stoke up fears about,he just finds others to target and further cement the grip on power.
