love30stm

And the main reason people go back to the uk is because of family and the heat actually

To me NZ is just another place to live for now

sheene

That is not an answer - just an evasion of the question. People don't move just because they can, there is always a reason / reasons. Just because we are not quite sure of what they are, does not mean they do not exist.

Bo-Jangles

Statistics New Zealand data showed that of the 49,000 people that left for Australia in the past year, most were New Zealand citizens.

Odd, I actually thought the thread was about the people that have done exactly this. It's a topical conversation all over the media this week; an issue for the whole country, an issue for the electorate and the forthcoming leader of the nation. Even odder, if it were ignored and not discussed on British Expats, I would have thought.

I think it's a little way beyond a few whinging British Expat chewing the fat over the ups and downs of life in NZ, the weather or the lack of a decent sausage.

love30stm

Talk to myself

mcgarnagle

Genuine question - Is it Wanganui or NZ in general that you dislike?

I love NZ but I honestly don't think I could live outside Auckland. For a start, my line of work wouldn't allow it, but I'd also find it too parochial in the sticks.

sheene

You could be on to something there.

sheene

Hugs and kisses, please sit down, let me take your coat.

love30stm

Wanganui and husband is looking for work in other areas but not much around for Lean Manufacturing! if nothng comes up in better areas in NZ then we will look at oz when we get our Citizenship in July thousands of jobs in that kind of work there.

im sure Auckland or Wellington i would love im a city girl at heart, hence NZ is not doing it for me

Bo-Jangles

A discussion I was listening to on he radio today with the Chief Economist from Westpac was saying that in times of economic strife or trouble, the first thing people do is take a 'flight to safety', to places where things are familiar, where they have roots, connections and know how everything works.

It happened very early in the recession, lots of Kiwis did come home to NZ, the same way that the Polish left the UK in vast numbers and headed back home PDQ. It makes absolute sense that people would head home to familiarity to hunker down among kith and kin: but it does not explain the opposite trend for the continued mass departures from NZ.

Robbo25

This forum is kinda warm and fuzzy in a very perverse way

I also believe the world's population is increasingly mobile and people will shift to many locations over their years. Oz gives people another option i.e. larger population, more hustle and bustle etc., but still with good weather and English as a first language. However for me I don't but into the Oz smoke and mirrors routine, as I see a lot of people on the other parts leaving Oz in droves too. I believe the real living costs are pretty high compensated by the economic bubble they are currently going through and may go through for many years to come.

Have you seen the price of a box of beers over there What about power costs through the running of air con etc incessantly just to survive the summer months.

As for blighty, well we all romanticise, me included, however after 5 months of being here, let me tell you the place is a heck of a lot worse than it was when I left in 2008. I thought I would get a job back here, and despite having a very high level of success in terms of getting interviews either the employers are taking the p*!s with their conditions, or they are employing people from elsewhere in the pool of people working in that industry.

I couldn't get into Oz (lack of qualifications etc) even with a job offer even if I wanted to, but the reality is that not having the benefits of permanent residence there makes shipping your whole life over there a real problem if it all goes belly up.

NZ is a funny old place, it has a lot going for it but equally a lot that makes it frustrating, personally I couldn't live outside of Auckland it really would kill me.

Robbo25

This is rather sensationalist and maybe be true between NZ and Oz, however compare those two areas with the UK.

I only have Auckland to go on, but there in the out of hours medical centre, if anyone is waiting longer than an hour they draft in another doctor, the facilities are amazing and my son has access to brilliant medical people, MRI's etc., with very short time to wait i.e. days, that just would not happen in the UK.

As for schooling my sons having access to schooling that they would never have even seen in the UK, I accept many people do not think the education is good enough for their kids, personal choice and all that, but in my experience it has been light years ahead of the UK's in terms of day to day quality.

Woodlea

Point of Order here, what about members such as Expat Kiwi and Kiwilass et al, are they British? I am with you on the exclusion of Johnny Foreigner Kiwis masquerading as Brits. Perhaps BE should have a more thorough vetting of members?

Genesis

For me the lovely neighbourhood, the detatched house with a pool and a garage all existed in the Uk but I could not get anywhere near them with what I had in the UK moneywise. And that is just the start of it. A good life is way more about a nice house and a good neighbourhood. NZ is very unpopulous..one of the things that the Uk did not have was a small population. I really wanted to live somewhere like NZ with a big landmass and a tiny population. I wanted a different life. I certainly got that!!!

love30stm

yes agree i have a detached house in a good area, tons of land, couldnt afford it in the uk even though my husband had a good wage, but we dont have money for holidays anymore, i miss popping to europe, Tenerife in the winter etc etc.....

oh well pass the wine a new day tommorow Christmas shopping meeting a friend and think how lucky I am that im experiencing life in another country! roll on summer

love the smilies

sheene

And in my experience, having worked in both, that is utter nonsense.