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Old Nov 22nd 2011, 3:17 am
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Interesting Article from the Dom Post

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...eep-leaving-NZ

In October, there was a net loss of 600 migrants, with more people leaving New Zealand than arriving. For the first time in 10 years more people left New Zealand than arrived, and if the trend continues the country could lose nearly 5000 people a year.



............................., so more room for me and the Kids and more chance for expats to fill the void, lets all think positive

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Interesting Article from the Dom Post

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...eep-leaving-NZ

In October, there was a net loss of 600 migrants, with more people leaving New Zealand than arriving. For the first time in 10 years more people left New Zealand than arrived, and if the trend continues the country could lose nearly 5000 people a year.

The latest figures from Statistics NZ resulted from 84,400 permanent and long-term departures outnumbering 84,300 permanent and long-term arrivals. Most people leaving are moving to Australia.

ANZ Bank economists said the first negative annual migration figures since 2001 would take the heat out of consumer demand and "weigh on the housing market".

In October, there was a net loss of 600 migrants, with more people leaving New Zealand than arriving. Since the February quake, New Zealand has suffered a net loss of migrants in all months, except August. Since February, there have been 6000 departures from Christchurch, almost double the 3700seen in the same period a year before.

While monthly migration figures bounce around, the trend was becoming clear, ANZ said. If the net loss of the past three months was continued, there would be an annual loss of almost 4900 people. New Zealand's net loss of migrants in the October 2011 year was due to a net loss of 35,000 people to Australia. This was only just below the highest recorded net loss to Australia of 35,400 people in the December 2008 year.

There were net gains of migrants from most other countries, led by the United Kingdom (5,700), India (5,100), and China (4,600).

The last big net loss of people was between the July 1998 year and the September 2001 year, when the net loss peaked at 13,200 people in the February 2001 year.

The highest net loss recorded was 43,600 people in the July 1979 year, which was followed by net losses throughout most of the 1980s.

............................., so more room for me and the Kids and more chance for expats to fill the void, lets all think positive
Not surprising really. Oz has better weather, better pay and a better economy. I reckon it is a waaaaay more exciting and vibrant place too. Makes NZ look a wee bit dreary IMO. I don't think I could handle the heat meself and anyways kate WILL NOT entertain it a a place to live re snakes. Just snakes pretty much. I spent 3 months there back in 1990 and thought it was the best place ever. Probably still is but even better now.
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are there many snakes in Tassie too?

It depends what job you have. for instance, If you are a policy analyst and get paid 100 K a year then you won't make a move.
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They make a big deal this time about it being the first time it has been a net loss position but must bear in mind the huge sums of money and the multi-million dollars migration business of resource and effort involved in trying to attract and maintain the numbers coming in up to now.

Honestly it should be more compelling than it is and not some big joke. The apologists will make more excuses for it; laugh it off as a good thing with there being plenty of room for some more. The long term prospects are not good for young people and before long we'll just be left with the relatively rich migrants to prop up the economy and to generate sufficient tax funds to pay to keep the old and sick folks, the beneficiaries and the dregs. Immigration will fiddle with the policies again; up the quotas of the rich, retired and business category migrants to bolster things up for a bit longer.

If you're thinking of voting this week, remember John Key's manifesto in the last election three years ago was to close the gap in the wage and tax differentials between here and Australia, to stem the outward flow and create more jobs here. Err, what happened exactly? Did that cycle path even get built?
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so more room for me and the Kids and more chance for expats to fill the void, lets all think positive
Well. I would wish you luck, but there is much less work, so less void to fill as me and him have seen over that past few years.
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Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles View Post

If you're thinking of voting this week, remember John Key's manifesto in the last election three years ago was to close the gap in the wage and tax differentials between here and Australia, to stem the outward flow and create more jobs here. Err, what happened exactly? Did that cycle path even get built?
I cant believe comments like this.

Three questions:
- have we had a major international financial crisis in the meantime, and a number or major local disasters?
- How much would Labour have narrowed the gap with Australia by during the same period?
- do you think maybe National inherited a crock of sh*t from Helen Clarke?

**** me, the one thing to ensure a net migration loss in the future is a labour/green/mana alliance, god im even shaking whilst typing.
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Seeing how almost impossibly difficult it is for Brits to get into NZ and how simple entry into the UK has become........it is obviously easier to get out than in so no wonder.......
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Originally Posted by skybluestu View Post
............................., so more room for me and the Kids and more chance for expats to fill the void, lets all think positive
It should take the heat off a little bit from the housing market for a while anyway. One of the reasons for housing being so expensive has been the large increase in population in recent years and a shortage of housing. Supply and demand and all that ....
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Seeing how almost impossibly difficult it is for Brits to get into NZ and how simple entry into the UK has become........it is obviously easier to get out than in so no wonder.......
Yeah well NZ Inc. learned that old marketing trick of making entry into NZ seem selective, scarce and exclusive, in order to increase the demand. They've had many, many decades of practice flogging that line and yet they still haven't got it off pat and obviously still don't have enough to actually compel people to stay, unless of course they're coming from much worse off or poorer backgrounds or those like yourself who simply seem to be tired of life.
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Yeah well NZ Inc. learned that old marketing trick of making entry into NZ seem selective, scarce and exclusive, in order to increase the demand.
Mmmm ... let me see ... so the reason for your unhappiness is this 'NZ-Inc' corporation?
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Who thought irony had died:

"The whole process will be made even easier with news today that the Australian Government has opened two immigration offices in New Zealand to fast track visa applications."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10767937

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or those like yourself who simply seem to be tired of life.
Very nice.....work for NZ tourism.....or immigration ..
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Mmmm ... let me see ... so the reason for your unhappiness is this 'NZ-Inc' corporation?
Yeah, Bojangles was sitting in her home in the UK, in a rewarding job, enjoying her unique British 'sense of humour' when she saw a misleading advertisement on the telly telling her that NZ was 100% pure. The rest, as they say, is history.
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Yeah, Bojangles was sitting in her home in the UK, in a rewarding job, enjoying her unique British 'sense of humour' when she saw a misleading advertisement on the telly telling her that NZ was 100% pure. The rest, as they say, is history.
That was uncalled for!
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Yeah, Bojangles was sitting in her home in the UK, in a rewarding job, enjoying her unique British 'sense of humour' when she saw a misleading advertisement on the telly telling her that NZ was 100% pure. The rest, as they say, is history.
At least some peoiple have the guts to up and go
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