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Old Apr 18th 2010, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by MattandJax
yes me too. im leaving behind older kids! just cant imagine how it will be leaving them on the other side of the world. but will have to take comfort in the fact that they will come out for long holidays and will regulary Skype...
but you just dont know until you try it how you will cope!

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Hey Jax you dont look old enough to have big ones

I secretly hope they will follow me out and those holidays will be affordable for them & us going back.....

Personally I think they should come with us and stop being so selfish apparently you have to give them choice so what if they are 27 & nearly 26, still my babies

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Hey Jax you dont look old enough to have big ones

I secretly hope they will follow me out and those holidays will be affordable for them & us going back.....

Personally I think they should come with us and stop being so selfish apparently you have to give them choice so what if they are 27 & nearly 26, still my babies

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Hey Dewb & Jax.....it will be the hardest thing you've ever done!!! believe me!!BUT if you're 'kids' are anything like ours they will support you 100% and be so proud of they're incredible adventurous parents!!
Skype, email's frequent phone calls & those planned for long holidays will stand you in good steadHold on to those thoughts

Not everyone leaves their heart in UK like me....don't be afraid, you won't live with yourselves if you don't try

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Old Apr 18th 2010, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by Him and Me
Hi,

Had a bad phone call from my mother the other day, which mad me feel so guilty for leaving the UK...family problems.....she was crying saying she wishes i was there with her

So just has i was getting over the homesickness business i now have a guilt trip to contend with
Do feel for you guilt trips are so difficult on their own but added to homesickness....... you must be going through hell
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Hey Jax you dont look old enough to have big ones

I secretly hope they will follow me out and those holidays will be affordable for them & us going back.....

Personally I think they should come with us and stop being so selfish apparently you have to give them choice so what if they are 27 & nearly 26, still my babies

Dewb xx
why thank you dewb!
my eldest is 22 and at UNi still, but is excited (as are the other two!) at the thought of the long hols with us, and maybe even come and live/work out there in the future (she wants to be a primary teacher).
and you're right, they have their own lives to lead, and they know where we'll be, should they wish to join us at any time!
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why thank you dewb!
my eldest is 22 and at UNi still, but is excited (as are the other two!) at the thought of the long hols with us, and maybe even come and live/work out there in the future (she wants to be a primary teacher).
and you're right, they have their own lives to lead, and they know where we'll be, should they wish to join us at any time!
we can but hope

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Originally Posted by MnB
Do feel for you guilt trips are so difficult on their own but added to homesickness....... you must be going through hell
Best wishes & hope you feel better soon
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Yeah I second that one, I think its hard to deal with someone's emotion when your finding things difficult too, I think at some point we have all been there and know how hard it can be. Look after yourself Him and Me

MnB Have you any rock solid plans set in motion yet ?
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MnB Have you any rock solid plans set in motion yet ?
Hi there, yep flights are booked, leave NZ 15th May to Cook Islands for 8 nights then off to Heathrow via LA, arrive Uk 24th May......all of course dependant on UK air space not being shrouded in volcanic ash so may have to delay but feeling much happier now I know we will be going HOME!!
Will be back next year tho, for a holiday with our grown up children, felt bad depriving them of their NZ experience they were coming over for Christmas but now we'll travel together and still have a wonderful holiday I' sure!!

Hope you're managing to live through the up's & down's and get through , thanks for your understanding.
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Brand new to this forum, have been reading some posts with great interest - this thread especially.

I am married to a NZer and our 2 kids have dual nationality. I never went down the route of citizenship - never wanted to.

Over the past 25 years we've made many many trips to NZ to see family. In 2005 we decided to move over there. Unlike a lot of people, we weren't trying to escape anything, we love the UK, we just fancied something different.

We spent 2 years in NZ and I have to say I hated every single minute of it. I don't hate the country, I just hated living there (if that makes any sense).

I never felt 'part of it', I never managed to shrug the constant gnawing feeling of not belonging and not wanting to be there. We had left a beautiful village location on the Staffordshire/Shropshire border, our lives had been very rural, tranquil and crime free. We moved near to Palmerston North (probably mistake number 1) - that's where my inlaws were/are. In the 2 years we were there I experienced more crime, vandalism and prejudice than I ever had in the UK. This is something that some balk at and refuse to believe .... it's true !!! Obviously location has a lot to do with it, if you're leaving a highly populated location in the UK and heading to rural NZ you stand a darn good chance of leaving the crime behind ...... if you do things the other way round then it stands to reason that the results will be different too.

I found the locals to be friendly enough but everything stopped at polite chit chats, we were never invited any further that that. The constant self praise the Kiwis lavish on themselves started to grind pretty soon after arrival too.

Not having any history was difficult, being in our mid 40's we found everybody to be part of long established circles of friends who shared years of memories. It was very hard to break through, in the end we stopped trying.

My hubby had been out of NZ for many many years and found it very difficult to relate to his 'countrymen'.

This may/probably will seem like a real NZ bashing post to those who love the place, but really that's not my intention. I'm just trying to relate MY story as it was for me ..... after all, perception is reality!

Cutting a very long story short, my mental health started to suffer, my kids were turning into grunting androids instead of the intelligent, animated kids they were back in the UK (the education system was nothing more than a state funded joke). Thankfully, just after we hit the 2 years mark we made a decision to come home.

We've been back almost 3 years now and have to say we have no regrets at all. We have many many fond memories of NZ, we've been back twice since we moved back to the UK. Once for a family funeral and once to take the kids back to see their grandmother. Going back was the best thing we could have possibly done as it confirmed to us that we were right to leave. NZ - for us - is a lovely holiday location and nothing more. We are in an equally rural location in the UK to the one we left and simply can't relate to any of the comments people say about how the UK is going to the dogs. I don't have my head in the sand, I just know for a fact that everywhere in the world has good and bad points. Sadly for us NZ made most of the bad points come to the surface. The kids are thriving in their schools here in the UK and, compared to their NZ cousins who are a couple of years older, are educationally streets ahead. They're just brighter kids all round than they ever were in NZ.

So - for those who are unsure whether their returns to the UK will work or not I have this to say. Wherever the human race resides then you'll get good and bad. you'll get people telling you that you're wrong to do this, that or the other. Maybe they're showing genuine concern for your well being by trying to advise you which way to turn or maybe they're wanting you to do the same as them so that it makes them feel more secure with their decision - who knows. But, like I mentioned before, perception IS reality. Wild horses wouldn't drag me back to live in NZ yet I know that the same applies to a lot of people regarding coming back to the UK. We all have to find that niche in life that suits us best, that makes us feel happy. We need to look past the newspaper headlines and the glossy mags and go and find out for ourselves.

I don't regret our time in NZ, and I'm glad we returned for a holiday as this REALLY did give us peace of mind knowing we did the right thing to leave. It may be the same for those wanting to return, it may not but whatever happens, we wish everybody well.
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Nozza...simple question, if you were living in a rural location in the UK that is hidden from crime spots then why didn't you move to a rural location in NZ ?
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Well when I say we lived in Palmerston North, we actually lived a few kms outside of it in a village (not that the locals referred to it as a village) only slightly larger than where we came from. It was called Ashhurst, but had I referred to it as that in my o.p I don't suppose many people would have known where i was talking about. Sorry for the confusion.
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Well when I say we lived in Palmerston North, we actually lived a few kms outside of it in a village (not that the locals referred to it as a village) only slightly larger than where we came from. It was called Ashhurst, but had I referred to it as that in my o.p I don't suppose many people would have known where i was talking about. Sorry for the confusion.
So was all of the crime, vandalism and prejudice experienced in Ashhurst?
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Crime & vandalism mostly in that area yeah although there was evidence of it almost everywhere I went. Prejudice was Bluff to Reinga. But hey, please let me repeat that I DO NOT hate NZ, I'm just telling how it was for us. God only knows we wanted it to be different
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Crime & vandalism mostly in that area yeah although there was evidence of it almost everywhere I went. Prejudice was Bluff to Reinga. But hey, please let me repeat that I DO NOT hate NZ, I'm just telling how it was for us. God only knows we wanted it to be different
Enjoyed reading your post. Thought you gave an very honest account of your experience with living in NZ. Sorry it didnt work out for you but at least you gave it a go, which is what we are going to do.


All the best for the future

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Crime & vandalism mostly in that area yeah although there was evidence of it almost everywhere I went. Prejudice was Bluff to Reinga. But hey, please let me repeat that I DO NOT hate NZ, I'm just telling how it was for us. God only knows we wanted it to be different
No it's just that you must be extremely lucky to be living where you are in the UK. I live in the central midlands where even the small villages are large and we are suburbs of at least one major town or city and very densely populated because of all of the Mway links. Life is not so crime free here so I will be looking at a different comparison.
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Brand new to this forum, have been reading some posts with great interest - this thread especially.

I am married to a NZer and our 2 kids have dual nationality. I never went down the route of citizenship - never wanted to.

Over the past 25 years we've made many many trips to NZ to see family. In 2005 we decided to move over there. Unlike a lot of people, we weren't trying to escape anything, we love the UK, we just fancied something different.

We spent 2 years in NZ and I have to say I hated every single minute of it. I don't hate the country, I just hated living there (if that makes any sense).

I never felt 'part of it', I never managed to shrug the constant gnawing feeling of not belonging and not wanting to be there. We had left a beautiful village location on the Staffordshire/Shropshire border, our lives had been very rural, tranquil and crime free. We moved near to Palmerston North (probably mistake number 1) - that's where my inlaws were/are. In the 2 years we were there I experienced more crime, vandalism and prejudice than I ever had in the UK. This is something that some balk at and refuse to believe .... it's true !!! Obviously location has a lot to do with it, if you're leaving a highly populated location in the UK and heading to rural NZ you stand a darn good chance of leaving the crime behind ...... if you do things the other way round then it stands to reason that the results will be different too.

I found the locals to be friendly enough but everything stopped at polite chit chats, we were never invited any further that that. The constant self praise the Kiwis lavish on themselves started to grind pretty soon after arrival too.

Not having any history was difficult, being in our mid 40's we found everybody to be part of long established circles of friends who shared years of memories. It was very hard to break through, in the end we stopped trying.

My hubby had been out of NZ for many many years and found it very difficult to relate to his 'countrymen'.

This may/probably will seem like a real NZ bashing post to those who love the place, but really that's not my intention. I'm just trying to relate MY story as it was for me ..... after all, perception is reality!

Cutting a very long story short, my mental health started to suffer, my kids were turning into grunting androids instead of the intelligent, animated kids they were back in the UK (the education system was nothing more than a state funded joke). Thankfully, just after we hit the 2 years mark we made a decision to come home.

We've been back almost 3 years now and have to say we have no regrets at all. We have many many fond memories of NZ, we've been back twice since we moved back to the UK. Once for a family funeral and once to take the kids back to see their grandmother. Going back was the best thing we could have possibly done as it confirmed to us that we were right to leave. NZ - for us - is a lovely holiday location and nothing more. We are in an equally rural location in the UK to the one we left and simply can't relate to any of the comments people say about how the UK is going to the dogs. I don't have my head in the sand, I just know for a fact that everywhere in the world has good and bad points. Sadly for us NZ made most of the bad points come to the surface. The kids are thriving in their schools here in the UK and, compared to their NZ cousins who are a couple of years older, are educationally streets ahead. They're just brighter kids all round than they ever were in NZ.

So - for those who are unsure whether their returns to the UK will work or not I have this to say. Wherever the human race resides then you'll get good and bad. you'll get people telling you that you're wrong to do this, that or the other. Maybe they're showing genuine concern for your well being by trying to advise you which way to turn or maybe they're wanting you to do the same as them so that it makes them feel more secure with their decision - who knows. But, like I mentioned before, perception IS reality. Wild horses wouldn't drag me back to live in NZ yet I know that the same applies to a lot of people regarding coming back to the UK. We all have to find that niche in life that suits us best, that makes us feel happy. We need to look past the newspaper headlines and the glossy mags and go and find out for ourselves.

I don't regret our time in NZ, and I'm glad we returned for a holiday as this REALLY did give us peace of mind knowing we did the right thing to leave. It may be the same for those wanting to return, it may not but whatever happens, we wish everybody well.
Thank you for this post, I really think it adds to the mix and I like the fact that you state this is your own experience and you had the guts to change it. I think one of the hardest decesion for me is saying this isn't working. (although at present I can't change it due to finances). Someone pointed out to me that its not always good enough to exist in a place, you need to be able to live and I totally agree. Reading the post about people returning back to the Uk it looks like most don't dislike NZ they just know its not for them. Good luck whether your coming, going or staying
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