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chriswinter May 5th 2011 9:49 pm

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 
[QUOTE=jasper123;9345813]

Originally Posted by islandwoman120 (Post 9344376)

Yes Rosie I heard way before my 36 years in U.S. the green card WAS actually green,

Yes, they indeed were. I still have my 'Green Card' with my baby picture on it...Dec. 12, 1947!! :eek:

Chris

islandwoman120 May 5th 2011 9:54 pm

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by Beedubya (Post 9345869)
Exactly the BILLIONS would not come from anywhere else other than the smokers who are not only PROPPING up the NHS, rather they are paying over the odds for it.............

There is to be a ban on sales of cigarettes to be implemented shortly, and small corner/convenience stores will not be allowed to sell them. Have a look - this was posted before the ban was announced, and it has since been passed: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...logos-branding

Cigarette packets here say if plainly: Smoking Kills.

I watched my father die from Emphysema in 1993, and it is not a pretty sight. He was a 3 pack a day man for many years, and did not give up until he got pneumonia at the age of 60, then stopped cold turkey - too late for him. When I say I hate cigarettes - I hate cigarettes. Most smokers seem to think that the butts (fag ends) they throw on the street are exempt from the request to not litter the public space - those of you on here who are/were smokers - can you lay any light on what makes smokers so blind to this fact? I have never understood this, and many of my fellow citizens don't understand this attitude either. But we can't get it across in a workable manner. By the way, this is a genuine question, not a wind up. Rosie

sallysimmons May 5th 2011 10:14 pm

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 
My dad died of lung cancer aged 60 - also not a pretty sight and the final spur I needed to give up 8 years ago.

But it's a truly enjoyable habit and one I sometimes still miss. I can certainly understand others who can't give it up.

As for the butts on the floor - I think throwing them on the floor is better than trying to extinguish them, throwing them in a bin, and then having the whole thing burst into flames.

windsong May 5th 2011 10:16 pm

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by islandwoman120 (Post 9345908)
There is to be a ban on sales of cigarettes to be implemented shortly, and small corner/convenience stores will not be allowed to sell them. Have a look - this was posted before the ban was announced, and it has since been passed: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...logos-branding

Cigarette packets here say if plainly: Smoking Kills.

I watched my father die from Emphysema in 1993, and it is not a pretty sight. He was a 3 pack a day man for many years, and did not give up until he got pneumonia at the age of 60, then stopped cold turkey - too late for him. When I say I hate cigarettes - I hate cigarettes. Most smokers seem to think that the butts (fag ends) they throw on the street are exempt from the request to not litter the public space - those of you on here who are/were smokers - can you lay any light on what makes smokers so blind to this fact? I have never understood this, and many of my fellow citizens don't understand this attitude either. But we can't get it across in a workable manner. By the way, this is a genuine question, not a wind up. Rosie

It's plain old "denial" - same as with any other addiction. When it comes to addiction, the denial can be SOooo strong!

My mother smoked as well and I relate only too well to that denial. I told her many times but she always had one excuse over another. And if you talked about second-hand smoke, she didn't want to hear it.

cheers May 6th 2011 2:33 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 
Nice to see Katy out and about and shopping Thursday at Waitrose Supermarket. She was looking in the biscuits section and I wonder what her favorite is?
They had a picture taken outside Waitrose and it showed it had been raining so I loved that picture.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-trolley.html

Pipa out and about.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrityn...ed-man-201145#

bandrui May 6th 2011 3:38 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 9344819)
That is so not true about many academics - what about phenomenology, ethnography, grounded theory, etc., etc.? Even within the positivistic paradigm, intuition is a crucially important part of a researcher's skills and abilities. It's probably true that the discoveries of the best scientists (take Einstein, for example) were derived primarily due to their intuition.

Only if you view academia/research through a very narrow ontological prism would your statement be true. Positivism is only one of a variety of epistemological perspectives on "science".

Yes, Einstein is a great example. He was an amazing man and not just talking about his intellect... very tapped in. But I wouldn't call him a representative example of a scientist.
However, I was very encouraged by your email. I left Uni studies of Psychology and Philosophy because I found them very left-brain, at least in the classes I was taking at SFU.

bandrui May 6th 2011 3:53 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 
[QUOTE=jasper123;9345813]

Originally Posted by islandwoman120 (Post 9344376)

Yes Rosie I heard way before my 36 years in U.S. the green card WAS actually green,

My green card is green. Of course it's no longer any good because in those days you had to register every year in January and were called a "Registered Alien". Lovely name. :thumbdown:

bandrui May 6th 2011 4:02 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by islandwoman120 (Post 9345908)
There is to be a ban on sales of cigarettes to be implemented shortly, and small corner/convenience stores will not be allowed to sell them. Have a look - this was posted before the ban was announced, and it has since been passed: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...logos-branding

Cigarette packets here say if plainly: Smoking Kills.

I watched my father die from Emphysema in 1993, and it is not a pretty sight. He was a 3 pack a day man for many years, and did not give up until he got pneumonia at the age of 60, then stopped cold turkey - too late for him. When I say I hate cigarettes - I hate cigarettes. Most smokers seem to think that the butts (fag ends) they throw on the street are exempt from the request to not litter the public space - those of you on here who are/were smokers - can you lay any light on what makes smokers so blind to this fact? I have never understood this, and many of my fellow citizens don't understand this attitude either. But we can't get it across in a workable manner. By the way, this is a genuine question, not a wind up. Rosie

Dropping cigarette butts on the ground has no more to do with smoking as a habit than dropping candy bar papers has to do with the need for a sugar fix. It has to do with the sense of responsibility of the individual.

bandrui May 6th 2011 5:15 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by cheers (Post 9346330)
Nice to see Katy out and about and shopping Thursday at Waitrose Supermarket. She was looking in the biscuits section and I wonder what her favorite is?
They had a picture taken outside Waitrose and it showed it had been raining so I loved that picture.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-trolley.html

Pipa out and about.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrityn...ed-man-201145#

Nice Cheers.

islandwoman120 May 6th 2011 6:32 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by cheers (Post 9346330)
Nice to see Katy out and about and shopping Thursday at Waitrose Supermarket. She was looking in the biscuits section and I wonder what her favorite is?
They had a picture taken outside Waitrose and it showed it had been raining so I loved that picture.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-trolley.html

Pipa out and about.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrityn...ed-man-201145#

Voyeur!

dontheturner May 6th 2011 6:38 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by cheers (Post 9346330)
Nice to see Katy out and about and shopping Thursday at Waitrose Supermarket. She was looking in the biscuits section and I wonder what her favorite is?
They had a picture taken outside Waitrose and it showed it had been raining so I loved that picture.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-trolley.html
Pipa out and about.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrityn...ed-man-201145#

Pippa can be our guest any time. Don

dunroving May 6th 2011 8:39 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by bandrui (Post 9346405)
Yes, Einstein is a great example. He was an amazing man and not just talking about his intellect... very tapped in. But I wouldn't call him a representative example of a scientist.
However, I was very encouraged by your email. I left Uni studies of Psychology and Philosophy because I found them very left-brain, at least in the classes I was taking at SFU.

I think US universities are still largely positivist (I went through 6 years of grad school without ever hearing the words ontology, epistemology, etc. mentioned in class - even in research methods classes). Although people think about quantitative research (i.e., involving statistics) as being complicated and confusing, it is actually a much easier paradigm to implement because the rules are relatively clear, governed by maths, etc. However, I'm pretty shocked that a Philosophy department would be predominantly left-brain (psychology, maybe, because even though it lends itself more to postpositivism, the predominant paradigm has always been quantitative).

This system fits the US school-educated individual because of the emphasis on learning facts, multiple-choice exams, didactic teaching rather than guided learning, thinking outside the box, etc.

The opposite end of the spectrum is much more difficult to learn and understand how to do properly (and to teach - if you start with the premise that multiple truths/multiple realities can exist concurrently, how do you determine what is correct/incorrect?) There are rules and systems, but unfortunately qualitative research is too often misinterpreted as meaning simply that "opinion is fact", and there is no need for a rationale or rigour. If you Google Margaret Mead/Coming of Age in Samoa, you'll see the pitfalls of the qualitative paradigm - doubt has been cast on her research; indeed later interviews with the women who participated in her study revealed that they simply told her lies/stories in order to entertain themselves.

There is as much "art" as "science" in good research, and I think most good researchers and academics understand that.

dunroving May 6th 2011 8:58 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by islandwoman120 (Post 9346631)
Voyeur!

I have to say that as much as it is very nice to see such a natural couple, I do feel a sense of irony that we celebrate how normal she is by enjoying photographs of her living a normal life - what is so normal about photographers following you to the shops?

Maybe it was a scheduled/agreed photoshoot, in which case I guess it's not so bad, but I hope the press leaves her alone.

They are already digging into her sister and brother's supposedly lurid past, bloody hyenas. Maybe we should get to see embarrassing past photos of the tabloid bosses and photographers, too, seems only fair.

Fish n Chips 56 May 6th 2011 9:15 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 

Originally Posted by islandwoman120 (Post 9345843)
No dogs because of dog poo on the pavements all over the town; and I live next to a pub now, so Thursday - Sunday nights are awful - it's a Karaoke pub, good fun, lots of noise + the smokers have to sit outside now = 1am bedtime for me all those nights. :frown:

I feel for you Rosie, Yikes I couldn't handle that.

Fish n Chips 56 May 6th 2011 9:23 am

Re: OVER 50's & 60's Chit-Chat & Daily Catch-Up Thread
 
[QUOTE=bandrui;9346425]

Originally Posted by jasper123 (Post 9345813)

My green card is green. Of course it's no longer any good because in those days you had to register every year in January and were called a "Registered Alien". Lovely name. :thumbdown:

The January registration went away around 1980, also the filling out of Tax forms before leaving on a foreign vacation.


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