Scout

You know Mercedes, you tend to get a wee bit nasty when proven wrong about something and are unable to backtrack your way back to being perfect. You were stereotyping me as an ignorant American as much as you were stereotyping Pakistanis as scum... It's not hard to get your number sweetie, I've met a few like you in my life. For the most part you are subtle in your insulting commentary until you are called on it and shown the baldfaced truth for what it truely is. Ugly. As mama always said.......you've shown your ass dear, now pull your panties back up and act like a big girl now.

ladyofthelake

Change Islamic Extremist or muslim for Pakistani and the exact same argument still stands in the above statement.


Bottom line, terrorists plotting to blow up planes are scum and don't need anything else added to the label.

Cape Blue

If they were born in Britain, raised in Britain and have British passports - they are British. They may not have the same philosophy as you (or indeed I) nor the same religion, they may (if guilty) indeed be scum - but they are British scum. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous and deluded.

Mercedes

I haven't got nasty, trust me on that, you would know if I was being nasty. I'm far from perfect, I was actually trying to explain why I said what I did, but it doesn't seem to make sense to you. Maybe I live in a different world to you. I don't think I'm wrong either, where have I been proven wrong, just because some disagree with me. Some do, some don't. I will stand by my comments, I've just been trying to explain why I said them.

I don't think all Pakistani's are terrorists nor do I think they are all scum. Nor do I think all Irish were terrorists when we were under attack by the IRA. Who I also called Irish Scum, there are Ex IRA in Iraq, I still refer to them as Irish Scum, and I personally love the Irish, in many respect better than I do the English, so there.

Has it actualy occured to you that these Pakistani orginated gentlemen who may have wanted to blow up the British, were actually racist themselves? Isn't the Jihad war of Al Quida racist or discrimintive anyone outside their belief is worthless. Has it actually occured to you that they may think themselves as Pakistani? Therefore labeling them Pakistani Scum would be suitable,ie Scum belonging to Pakistan.

People in reality, not virtual, who know and trust me many do, as they have spent months and weeks with me 24/7 mow me alot better than you do, at the end of the day, I'm lucky that I have thousands of people throughout the world who respect and care for me, I also know that I can ring more people than I can count on my hands and toes, to help me if I'm in trouble and they will jump on a plane to me if I make that call. They also know they can do it to me. I know because it has happened. I don't think many peple can say that, many call people who are aquaintance friends who really they are not, I don't label aquaintances that easily. If I was an ugly or racist person as you would like to beleive me to be, then why would I risk my life helping women of Pakistani orgin, or have gone to countries where there has been a high risk in getting medical supplies to them which include many nationalities and cultures, sometimes on a voluntary basis and no pay.

I will leave you with a thought, a Pakistani woman who I helped who feared for her life from her family, and wanted to be more western, she shouted at her own family that they were stupid Pakistani idiots, and that she hated them. Does that mean she hated all Pakistani people....

Mercedes

What happens if they think they are at war with you and don't view themselves as British? In other wars what would have happened with British Agents who was giving information to say the Germans that allowed thousands of British people to die. Where they not shot? For treason?

BAY

Is a cat born in a kipper tin a cat or a kipper ?

davidb

Cape Blue

If some of us Poms here in Oz, with Aussie citizenship, decided that we were going to, by violent means, re-establish direct rule of the 'colony' by London, what would you call us?

I know what 99.9% of Australians would call us - 'Pommie Bastards'.

By your argument you would probably call us 'Dissafected Australian Citizens'

Cape Blue

Not a direct comparison whatsoever - you are migrants to Aus whereas I (as I have said several times) am talking about people born and bred in the UK.

BAY

Ok Cape Blue

If some Poms in Oz, with Aussie citizenship, HAD CHILDREN who decided that THEY were going to, by violent means, re-establish direct rule of the 'colony' by London, what would you call THEM?

davidb

Yawn

Cape Blue

I would call them treasonous Australians and perhaps terrorists, what else would you call them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

davidb

I'm sure you would...........but they'd also be 'Pommie Bastards' to boot.

Lord Pom Percy

Most Poms in Oz would get called 'pommie bastards' anyway

davidb

That, My Lord, is a fair point

Sally

Funny how they soon get on their high horses about it