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Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by kevinl
(Post 4704968)
If Tracey's husband is anything like me then it won't kill him wherever he lives.
I could stay in Australia and be happy, I can go back and be happy. Australia is ok, nowhere near as great as Australians think but perfectly livable, I can keep buying boats and other toys and keep myself interested, thats because I am a normal shallow easliy pleased bloke. My wife, like most women, is deeper and needs more emotional support and stimulation. She really wants to go home, is very homesick and has never been impressed by material things. I can fully empathise with her, if I allow it I feel the emotional tug to go home too, I know the times when I like it here is when its like a holiday, the real life is nothing special. I stress about the practical things involved in going back, we have lost a shed load of money, I feel little excitment about the prospect of house and job hunting again and the lost ego going back to all the people who were jealous of our "luck" going to live in Australia, if only they knew. But none of this will kill me and I know we will get ourselves straight again and my wife will be happier. It's very difficult to post at times when some of these patronizing plonkers come on and push and gloat, have lost my temper and been told off a couple of times, thought getting the visa was stressful? try going back. Kevin Yep, well said KevinL. My hubbie has a similar view and can understand why I want to go back. I have asked him if he wants to go back purely because I do, his answer was no, I like it here but not to live forever, its just not England and to me that says it all. Like you we have lost heaps of money in our moves and each has moved because of the other or mostly for job reasons which haven't worked out but they are decisions we thought were right for us at the time. Everyone has a different situation. This time around posting on here I have kept right out of the Australian forum as last time I was 'picked' on a few times and being an emotional person they had me in tears so now I stick purely to this one where I can have a chat, a laugh and emotionally support others who are thinking of going back or are here and want to go back sometime in the future. Another thing I would like to say is that if I said everything that was in my mind about Perth I would have people lynching me! Yes I like it a lot but I dont love it, its soulless, characterless and downright unpleasant at times and why the f.... I came back here this time was to support my husband - either that or divorce which isn't an option and I am sure there are heaps of couples out there in the same situation as us. Sorry, gone on a bit folks! Plants ;) |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4705439)
Well, I pity your friends then :( There is a difference between honesty and diplomacy. Would you honestly say to your friend, who was feeling as homesick as me "Oh you came back last time and said you didn't like it. You thought Perth was forever. All you do now is moan about it. You are such a "glass half full woman" " Surely friends are supposed to be understanding, sympathetic and caring to each others needs. Certainly not judgemental and so accusing.
I am not asking you to apologise. Especially not about being happy in Oz. I am happy for you that you have found 'your place' in this world. But perhaps, in future, you will have a little more understanding and tolerance for those of us that haven't. Tracey, I had someone say that to me several times who I regarded as a very close friend, needless to say we aren't anymore. There is a difference between honesty and diplomacy, plus sometimes we should just keep our thoughts to ourselves too!!! LOL Plants |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by thpinkpussycat
(Post 4703603)
Think how you feel now and ask yourself the question if I feel like that here what if he feels the same way when back in the UK?
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Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by PLANTS
(Post 4708692)
Tracey, I had someone say that to me several times who I regarded as a very close friend, needless to say we aren't anymore. There is a difference between honesty and diplomacy, plus sometimes we should just keep our thoughts to ourselves too!!! LOL
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Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl
(Post 4708609)
That's an excellent well thought out post P. I've posted in the barbie on occasion saying about the comparisons some people use and how ridiculous they are, but of course, I was shot down and treated as though I was committing treason and didn't know what I was talking about, even though I've lived here a darn sight longer than alot of them. I'm so sick of hearing "it doesn't rain much here, the sun always shines, no hurricane seasons, no serious bush fires, no worries about the lack of water, it comes out of my tap (yes that was said to me on here), lovely beaches, we have a bigger house, a pool and barbie, have another beer."
I have never said I don't like Australia, hate Perth, hate aussies etc., all the things we seem to be accused of continually by the 'godzoners'. I honestly believe it's something lacking in their lives and, they have to somehow convince themselves that the people who are returning to their roots, for whatever reason, are all returning because they hate Oz. I do know that if I was content with my life here and had no thoughts of returning home, I wouldn't be posting in this forum. |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 4708761)
So by your theory I am as miserable as sin then and if I was happy with my lot wouldn't post on BE.
"I do know that if I was content with my life here and had no thoughts of returning home, I wouldn't be posting in this forum." |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl
(Post 4708711)
I wonder of the other person has thought how she would feel if the shoe was on her foot?
thats the key though i think, i dont think people who are happy in oz can truly understand how someone can feel when they are in a alien country with feelings of desperation and total sadness..... they just cannot understand and in a similar sense i just dont understand why they come on this forum, and by that i mean MBTUK forum? just why do people who are happy with their life in oz come on this forum????:confused: |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by mandtooz
(Post 4708784)
thats the key though i think, i dont think people who are happy in oz can truly understand how someone can feel when they are in a alien country with feelings of desperation and total sadness..... they just cannot understand and in a similar sense i just dont understand why they come on this forum, and by that i mean MBTUK forum?
just why do people who are happy with their life in oz come on this forum????:confused: |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl
(Post 4708768)
No, that wasn't what I wrote at all C. Read below. I also said this forum, MBTTUK not BE.
"I do know that if I was content with my life here and had no thoughts of returning home, I wouldn't be posting in this forum." |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl
(Post 4708790)
Well maybe one of them could answer that question, as it's been asked so many times before.
sorry to be repetative chucky!:) its like banging your head against a brick wall!! if we are all so sad with no lives and are making the biggest mistake of our lives going back, then leave us be! .................................................. ...... |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by mandtooz
(Post 4708784)
thats the key though i think, i dont think people who are happy in oz can truly understand how someone can feel when they are in a alien country with feelings of desperation and total sadness..... they just cannot understand and in a similar sense i just dont understand why they come on this forum, and by that i mean MBTUK forum?
just why do people who are happy with their life in oz come on this forum????:confused: |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 4708793)
OK. I used to post in this part of the forum long ago. I have been out of the UK a couple of times now and returned so I started posting here as I have been in that situation a few times and figured I could answer some questions. I ended up getting in plenty of fights with folk but eventually toned it down a bit and just now banter with a few people occasionally. Although I am happy here BE (inc this part of it) is a part of keeping me happy.
i still dont understand? why does coming on this part of the forum keep you happy? is it the entertainment value? i know that it was one of your posts to me yesterday that had me in tears...............i was particularly emotional i might add, but thats what most of us are on this forum vulnerable and emotion! I felt i was trying to get involved and you shot me down (i also take note that it could have been my interpretation of the situation and maybe being a little sensitive).:) |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by Geordie George
(Post 4708798)
Because although we're happy in Aus, we're moving back to the UK. Don't assume it's only people who are unhappy in Aus that return.
very true, good point:) hadnt thought of that.xx |
Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 4708793)
OK. I used to post in this part of the forum long ago. I have been out of the UK a couple of times now and returned so I started posting here as I have been in that situation a few times and figured I could answer some questions. I ended up getting in plenty of fights with folk but eventually toned it down a bit and just now banter with a few people occasionally. Although I am happy here BE (inc this part of it) is a part of keeping me happy.
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Re: Fate's kicking in again!
Originally Posted by St.Georges Girl
(Post 4708790)
Well maybe one of them could answer that question, as it's been asked so many times before.
If by the question above you mean the MBTUK part, then for me I come on this bit to keep myself aware that although I am perfectly happy to be living where I am now, and see no reason why that shouldn't continue, there is the unknown element of life. I am not stupid enough to think that some of the situations people find themselves in - in wanting to be back in the country they started out from - will never happen to me. Although I have lived away from the UK just as much as I have lived in it since I was 17, and I think I know what to expect, I try to keep aware that anything can happen and I might be the one 6 months down the line that needs to be somewhere else. Yes I love it here and am happy to be here (in Perth) for as long as I am happy - but I respect that others aren't and think that should go both ways. Thing is with a forum like this you can't see peoples faces or hear the tone in their voice when they "speak" to you, so sometimes things can be misunderstood quite easily. I really hope things work out for you (all) and that you get what you want and are happy - this emigrating lark doesn't suit everyone, and if we all wanted to live in the same place it would certainly be bloody crowded :D Shirley x p.s what is a "godzoner"? |
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