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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   Moving back or to the UK (https://britishexpats.com/forum/moving-back-uk-61/)
-   -   to all who are thinking of returning! (https://britishexpats.com/forum/moving-back-uk-61/all-who-thinking-returning-416910/)

Exile Jan 7th 2007 12:42 am
Re: to all who are thinking of returning!
 
Originally Posted by denver (Post 4255732)
Drink Driving - at least Australian police are trying to catch those that do it.

Drugs - never came across anything other than marijuana in perth, here, at parties, many people do cocaine or ecstacy, very cheap to buy.
Drink driving seems to be far more socially acceptable in Perth, in my experience.

And as for drugs, you really didn't get out much, did you? The implication that it is not a major problem in Perth is incredibly naive. I've seen discarded syringes in car parks from City Beach to Mindarie. In my 2.5 years here, there have been quite a few reports about kids getting needle stick injuries from syringes left in playgrounds. Sadly, hard drugs are everywhere, and Perth is no exception.

Nomore Jan 7th 2007 12:45 am
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Originally Posted by Exile (Post 4257012)
Drink driving seems to be far more socially acceptable in Perth, in my experience.

And as for drugs, you really didn't get out much, did you? The implication that it is not a major problem in Perth is incredibly naive. I've seen discarded syringes in car parks from City Beach to Mindarie. In my 2.5 years here, there have been quite a few reports about kids getting needle stick injuries from syringes left in playgrounds. Sadly, hard drugs are everywhere, and Perth is no exception.
Perth has a real drug problem amongst teenagers, it has been well documented in the news and in the papers. My kids see it happening at their schools, smoking pot especially.
I can't for the life in me understand why someone spouts off about drugs in UK being bad when it is here under their noses but they just ignore it because they choose to:rolleyes:

northernbird Jan 7th 2007 12:48 am
Re: to all who are thinking of returning!
 
Originally Posted by Exile (Post 4257012)
Drink driving seems to be far more socially acceptable in Perth, in my experience.

And as for drugs, you really didn't get out much, did you? The implication that it is not a major problem in Perth is incredibly naive. I've seen discarded syringes in car parks from City Beach to Mindarie. In my 2.5 years here, there have been quite a few reports about kids getting needle stick injuries from syringes left in playgrounds. Sadly, hard drugs are everywhere, and Perth is no exception.
there was a newspaper article about 6 months back about cocaine in Perth. The police took routine swabs from toilet seats in some of perths popular bars and traces of cocaine were found in many of them, snorting cocaine off toilet seat lids is commonplace amongst young professionals in Perth.

tony_russell Jan 7th 2007 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 4257026)
there was a newspaper article about 6 months back about cocaine in Perth. The police took routine swabs from toilet seats in some of perths popular bars and traces of cocaine were found in many of them, snorting cocaine off toilet seat lids is commonplace amongst young professionals in Perth.

Only in London its not just young professionals, its eveyone, come friday afternoon everyone in my local (a builders pub) walks out the toilets with a "cold" ;)

Tableland Jan 7th 2007 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by HiddenPaw (Post 4252041)
Tableland, for what its worth, posting an opinion that Australia might offer a better future than the UK from someone who has never lived a day-to-day existence in Australia holds no water. Most people who are moving back from Australia will know that there is a heap of issues there too, and really, there are equivalent problems to the NHS, crime, underfunded police forces, violence, etc.

The point that - as always - seems to go over your head is that most people don't deny that you can have a great life in Australia - if what it offers matches what you want. For many people, it doesn't offer what they want, which is not the same as saying that you can't have a good life there.

And, FWIW, I *am* in the UK, and I have no doubts that it is a great place to be for me and my family at this point in time.

You really seem to be a master at labouring points that are totally irrelevant to what is under discussion.

I also seem to be a master at touching your raw nerves. The issue here is perhaps one of long and short termism. Many people have looked at the UK and Australia and concluded - not unreasonably - that the latter offers more hope of a good life. The collapse of the British birth rate means that the tax will have to be very high in the UK to deal with the ageing population. This is one example of long-term trends that people are looking at.

In other words - which country will have the best opportunities in 30 years' time? Britain does offer a lot in my opinion, and remains a good country to live in, as is Australia. It's just about voicing an opinion, really, which people like yourself seem to be uncomfortable with, probably because you need your decision to live in the UK over Australia to be constantly reinforced, which is understandable.

dunroving Jan 7th 2007 2:04 am
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Originally Posted by tony_russell (Post 4257062)
Only in London its not just young professionals, its eveyone, come friday afternoon everyone in my local (a builders pub) walks out the toilets with a "cold" ;)
Are you sure you didn't mean to put this in the 'Let's generalise about the UK' thread? ;)

denver Jan 7th 2007 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by Exile (Post 4257012)
Drink driving seems to be far more socially acceptable in Perth, in my experience.

And as for drugs, you really didn't get out much, did you? The implication that it is not a major problem in Perth is incredibly naive. I've seen discarded syringes in car parks from City Beach to Mindarie. In my 2.5 years here, there have been quite a few reports about kids getting needle stick injuries from syringes left in playgrounds. Sadly, hard drugs are everywhere, and Perth is no exception.
Drugs - I can only talk about my exeriences in this sense, in Perth, at parties (and yes I went out quite a bit) I never saw any drugs (apart from marijuana), least of all cocaine. From my Aussie friends in London, they have told me it costs about $300 per gram, at least. Here, it is 30 pounds. In fact, some Aussies come here and get right into the drug scene because it is so accessible. They know they have give it up when they return to Oz. drugs seemed readily available in canada too, though I may have been hanging out with a rougher crowd there.
Just anecdotal evidence I guess, and it is my opinion, but this is a discussion forum after all.

denver Jan 7th 2007 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 4257154)
Are you sure you didn't mean to put this in the 'Let's generalise about the UK' thread? ;)
Oh dear. People don't generalise about Australia do they? Carrying on like all there is to do is go to the beach and the odd bbq.

Grayling Jan 7th 2007 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by denver (Post 4257267)
Drugs - I can only talk about my exeriences in this sense, in Perth, at parties (and yes I went out quite a bit) I never saw any drugs (apart from marijuana), least of all cocaine. From my Aussie friends in London, they have told me it costs about $300 per gram, at least. Here, it is 30 pounds. In fact, some Aussies come here and get right into the drug scene because it is so accessible. They know they have give it up when they return to Oz. drugs seemed readily available in canada too, though I may have been hanging out with a rougher crowd there.
Just anecdotal evidence I guess, and it is my opinion, but this is a discussion forum after all.
More bullshit

dunroving Jan 7th 2007 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by denver (Post 4257274)
Oh dear. People don't generalise about Australia do they? Carrying on like all there is to do is go to the beach and the odd bbq.
Actually, people generalize about Australia quite a lot around here. Oh, I guess you were being sarcastic ...

HiddenPaw Jan 7th 2007 3:45 am
Re: to all who are thinking of returning!
 
Originally Posted by tableland (Post 4257095)
The collapse of the British birth rate means that the tax will have to be very high in the UK to deal with the ageing population. This is one example of long-term trends that people are looking at.

In other words - which country will have the best opportunities in 30 years' time? Britain does offer a lot in my opinion, and remains a good country to live in, as is Australia. It's just about voicing an opinion, really, which people like yourself seem to be uncomfortable with, probably because you need your decision to live in the UK over Australia to be constantly reinforced, which is understandable.
Collapsing birth rate? Australia's birth rate in 2000 was half of what it was in 1960. Now, it is virtually the same as the UK (not sure if it's marginally higher or lower). Who is going to fund the ageing population in Australia then? Or don't you see this as an issue? Australia has one of the lowest "older" workforces in the western world - i.e the number of over 55s in the workforce is relatively low. Australia passed legislation a few years ago to increase the retirement age of women from 60 to 62 (effective in a couple of years), and is now talking of raising the male retirement age to 67. But you knew all that, didn't you. :rolleyes:

As for me needing my decision to live in the UK reinforced, why would I need that?

HiddenPaw Jan 7th 2007 3:58 am
Re: to all who are thinking of returning!
 
Originally Posted by denver (Post 4257267)
In fact, some Aussies come here and get right into the drug scene because it is so accessible. They know they have give it up when they return to Oz. drugs seemed readily available in canada too, though I may have been hanging out with a rougher crowd there.
Just anecdotal evidence I guess, and it is my opinion, but this is a discussion forum after all.
So your Australian friends come to the UK and willingly participate in the drug scene then? Good on them, what a great contribution to our society. :rolleyes: . And jolly good that they wouldn't dare behave like that in their own country.

Didn't Australian customs make their biggest ecstasy haul ever this week? Something like enough to make 11 million tablets? Must have been for all the Poms to take.

kiwi_child Jan 7th 2007 5:22 am
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Originally Posted by sassenach (Post 4254276)
never a truer word said kiwi ,but making the final decision is harder than i imagined .
All you can do is find and identify your thoughts and feelings and link them to why you think/feel this way. Then you have a basis from which to work with. Jotting these things down, clarifying them, then discussing them with your family and asking for their feedback and suggestions would help them to develop empathy and feel they each have an important contribution to make.

Suggesting they to take time to reflect on what you have said, and also identify how they feel/think about the family, about OZ, about maybe spending a couple of years in UK getting to know their extended family, visiting new places, seeing what it's like to live somewhere outside of OZ that offers different opportunites etc. There would be big advantages for all of if you can reach agreement and try life again there. The kids will always be able to come back to OZ, as can you and your wife, but the experience of going back is one I can only think would be beneficial to you all.

Suggesting a timeframe of a couple of years isn't that long, the kids could see 'light at the end of the tunnel' so to speak, and wouldn't lose contact with their friends with email and voip etc.

Anyway, I hope my suggestions might prove helpful. Good luck mate :)

blowfly Jan 7th 2007 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy (Post 4256238)
Something odd about OZ? have'nt you read about the " Suffolk Strangler" going around murdering people in lpswich dressed in womens clothing? l think theres something odd about the Uk also.
Yes but in the UK we will be horrified and say how bad it is. No one says bo diddly here after all that would be unAustralian wouldn't it?Now that is most definitely odd.

blowfly Jan 7th 2007 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by tableland (Post 4257095)
I also seem to be a master at touching your raw nerves. The issue here is perhaps one of long and short termism. Many people have looked at the UK and Australia and concluded - not unreasonably - that the latter offers more hope of a good life. The collapse of the British birth rate means that the tax will have to be very high in the UK to deal with the ageing population. This is one example of long-term trends that people are looking at.

In other words - which country will have the best opportunities in 30 years' time? Britain does offer a lot in my opinion, and remains a good country to live in, as is Australia. It's just about voicing an opinion, really, which people like yourself seem to be uncomfortable with, probably because you need your decision to live in the UK over Australia to be constantly reinforced, which is understandable.
Both countries have opportunities it depends on your skills and your standard of living in your own country.

I have been told by young people here that we should have stayed in Britain because of the way young people are treated in oz. I was surprised at this
and two of them have got themselves jobs in the UK to go to, they have finished uni they are really decent young men so I hope all goes well,but I have had a lot of comments like that.So for the young skilled men and women they think its to difficult here for them.


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