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FPM Jan 6th 2007 12:55 pm

Re: to all who are thinking of returning!
 

Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy (Post 4255583)
They drive , they can afford to as petrol cost half what it does in the UK.

Jesus, do you take a double dose of prozac or something? :rolleyes:

Petrol is indeed cheaper here, but you're forced to drive more often, longer distances and in Sydney pay 11 (soon to be 13 tolls), run the a/c nearly all the time, insurance is much higher here, plus there's the 3% stamp duty you have to pay just to register a vehicle in your own name, throw in the renewal of licences every year and the fact that 2nd hand cars are much more expensive here and that buys a lot of petrol!

How much more in denial can these Godzoners get? (answers on a postcard)

thunderbird65 Jan 6th 2007 1:01 pm

Re: to all who are thinking of returning!
 

Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy (Post 4255583)
They drive , they can afford to as petrol cost half what it does in the UK.




fuel not cheap when earning crap wages

ladyofthelake Jan 6th 2007 1:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy (Post 4255583)
They drive , they can afford to as petrol cost half what it does in the UK.

What about when they are too unstable to drive? What then?

denver Jan 6th 2007 1:37 pm

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Originally Posted by rodders39 (Post 4255867)
Utter crap...

"The rate of homicide in any given country tends to be viewed as the best indicator of the level of violence. There are many reasons for this, with the main reason centred on the fact that homicide is least likely to be affected by the 'dark figure' of crime - offences that go unreported and undetected. As a result homicide is also more likely than any other offence to be the subject of specific data collection efforts."

Source...

Jenny Mouzos
Senior Research Analyst, National Homicide Monitoring Program, Australian Institute of Criminology


Suck on that...

You could also argue the exact opposite. That you cannot hide a murder (body shows up, person missing etc) but many people would not bother to contact police over a violent incident. Don't want the hassle, or being seen as a "grasser" do not want to go to court etc I saw a violent bashing outside where I live in London, and the police were not called. The offenders ran off and the victims did not want the police called. The Justice system is weaker here also, for example two convicted murderers walked out of an open prison just last week.

Lord Pom Percy Jan 6th 2007 1:38 pm

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Originally Posted by FPM (Post 4256069)
Jesus, do you take a double dose of prozac or something? :rolleyes:

Can't you disagree with someone without using stupid insults.:mad:

denver Jan 6th 2007 1:43 pm

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Originally Posted by FPM (Post 4256069)
Jesus, do you take a double dose of prozac or something? :rolleyes:

Petrol is indeed cheaper here, but you're forced to drive more often, longer distances and in Sydney pay 11 (soon to be 13 tolls), run the a/c nearly all the time, insurance is much higher here, plus there's the 3% stamp duty you have to pay just to register a vehicle in your own name, throw in the renewal of licences every year and the fact that 2nd hand cars are much more expensive here and that buys a lot of petrol!

How much more in denial can these Godzoners get? (answers on a postcard)

FPM, I have to pay 2.oo POUNDs just to go one stop on the bus now. Transport is costing me about 50 pounds per week, and that is just trains and buses here in the good ole UK. Oh well, maybe I can work off some of the pounds I have put on and walk everywhere.

elfman Jan 6th 2007 2:06 pm

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Originally Posted by denver (Post 4255820)
Here, the police no longer show up to burglaries, unless you still have the burglar in your house.

You're full of it.
Do Aussie police show up to every burglary in Australia? If so they must have their hands full, what with Australia being the WORLD LEADER in burglaries per head of population:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ies-per-capita

elfman Jan 6th 2007 2:20 pm

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Originally Posted by denver (Post 4256129)
You could also argue the exact opposite. That you cannot hide a murder (body shows up, person missing etc) but many people would not bother to contact police over a violent incident. Don't want the hassle, or being seen as a "grasser" do not want to go to court etc I saw a violent bashing outside where I live in London, and the police were not called. The offenders ran off and the victims did not want the police called. The Justice system is weaker here also, for example two convicted murderers walked out of an open prison just last week.

According to this: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ting-to-police
people in Australia are slightly less likely to report a crime than people in Britain.

And a quick recap of violent crime stats:

Assaults per 1,000 population:
UK 7.5
Aus 7.0
So not much difference there.

Murders per 1,000:
Aus 0.015
UK 0.014
Virtually no difference there.

Rapes per 1,000:
Aus 0.78
UK 0.14
Woah. What's going on in Aus???

Incidentally Australia also leads the world in car thefts.
http://www.nationmaster.com

DrWho Jan 6th 2007 2:35 pm

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Originally Posted by denver (Post 4256129)
You could also argue the exact opposite. That you cannot hide a murder (body shows up, person missing etc) but many people would not bother to contact police over a violent incident. Don't want the hassle, or being seen as a "grasser" do not want to go to court etc I saw a violent bashing outside where I live in London, and the police were not called. The offenders ran off and the victims did not want the police called. The Justice system is weaker here also, for example two convicted murderers walked out of an open prison just last week.

More bollocks...

If you actually took the time to read the report then you'd realise why the Australian Institute of Criminology are saying that the only true indicator of violence levels is the murder rate...

Of course only people in the UK don't report crimes whilst everyone in Australia does... And of course you know far more about crime than the senior researcher at the AIC that I quoted... :zzz: :zzz:

Isn't it about time you actually came up with some facts to support your views...?

blowfly Jan 6th 2007 3:10 pm

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Originally Posted by elfman (Post 4256167)
According to this: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ting-to-police
people in Australia are slightly less likely to report a crime than people in Britain.

And a quick recap of violent crime stats:

Assaults per 1,000 population:
UK 7.5
Aus 7.0
So not much difference there.

Murders per 1,000:
Aus 0.015
UK 0.014
Virtually no difference there.

Rapes per 1,000:
Aus 0.78
UK 0.14
Woah. What's going on in Aus???

Incidentally Australia also leads the world in car thefts.
http://www.nationmaster.com

I am not surprised about the car theft or rape rates here.There is something odd about the whole place.It shares the highest rate of young male suicide
with in the world with Sweden and also homosexuals per head of population.

So what is going on:confused:

Lord Pom Percy Jan 6th 2007 3:30 pm

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Originally Posted by blowfly (Post 4256212)
I am not surprised about the car theft or rape rates here.There is something odd about the whole place.It shares the highest rate of young male suicide
with in the world with Sweden and also homosexuals per head of population.

So what is going on:confused:

Something odd about OZ? have'nt you read about the " Suffolk Strangler" going around murdering people in lpswich dressed in womens clothing? l think theres something odd about the Uk also.

Nomore Jan 6th 2007 3:35 pm

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rapes, muggings, murder, burgularies everywhere mate. No country will escape it. Didn't come here to escape crime in UK, we knew it was just as bad in OZ, but even if i liked it here i still wouldn't go on and on about the crime in UK just to justify my move to OZ:rolleyes:

Rosie Cheeks Jan 6th 2007 3:56 pm

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Originally Posted by rodders39 (Post 4256192)
More bollocks...

If you actually took the time to read the report then you'd realise why the Australian Institute of Criminology are saying that the only true indicator of violence levels is the murder rate...

Of course only people in the UK don't report crimes whilst everyone in Australia does... And of course you know far more about crime than the senior researcher at the AIC that I quoted... :zzz: :zzz:

Isn't it about time you actually came up with some facts to support your views...?

Arh, poor old Denver, I think she should be left alone now to post what she likes, no real point in responding to her posts anymore. She is approaching our desire to return to the UK from a totally different angle from the rest of us, and doesn't have the ability to put herself in our shoes.

I expect she has a perfect teaching job lined up for when she gets back to Perth in february after her two year working visa is up. It will be a full time permanent position at a private school, and then we won't have to read her rendition of the local London news anymore.

Nearly everybody I know in Australia is a teacher, my sister in law, my brother in law, the next door neighbour. The are stacks of them, my husbands friends and my mother in laws friends etc etc etc etc. Bloomin loads of them, they seem to churn them out from the universities here like there is no tomorrow. Every other person is teacher, and most of them don't have permanent jobs, only temporary contracts.

FPM Jan 6th 2007 4:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy (Post 4256130)
Can't you disagree with someone without using stupid insults.:mad:

Can't you post something that is not complete bollox, and totally lacking perspective?

DrWho Jan 6th 2007 5:24 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4256242)
rapes, muggings, murder, burgularies everywhere mate. No country will escape it. Didn't come here to escape crime in UK, we knew it was just as bad in OZ, but even if i liked it here i still wouldn't go on and on about the crime in UK just to justify my move to OZ:rolleyes:

Good post...

K


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