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Old Sep 8th 2023 | 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by dxbjazzi
i believe there's a spouse program but i don't have information on at the moment but you could get a job through it
Thanks. That’s pretty much as much as I can find anywhere. No details have been forthcoming from NEOM which makes it hard to make a decision given that I have a good career in my home country. I would be giving up a lot for an unknown.
 
Old Sep 8th 2023 | 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by ZeroCool_HTP
See responses in green above, I hope this helps!
So there may be cases where a manager is paid less than someone they manage?? wouldnt that cause some level of resentment?
 
Old Sep 9th 2023 | 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by NaughtiousMaximus
So there may be cases where a manager is paid less than someone they manage?? wouldnt that cause some level of resentment?
In theory yes, but I'm not aware of it happening and in my experience money isn't discussed too much.

It can seem a bit of a strange way to calculate remuneration but I think the nominal uplift works quite well. We tend to base value on society norms and benchmark salaries on the place we are from or living in. With Neom being so unique it would be difficult to create fixed salaries based on role. The uplift approach works well to account for an individuals situation and be an attractive offer in the majority of cases.

For example, some regions receive a salary 2-3x the income of counterparts in Europe, due to higher cost of living etc. So they wouldn't accept a role benchmarked on say UK salaries as it would be a pay cut.

Likewise for people from USA who may negotiate a higher uplift to cover the income tax they're still required to pay.
 
Old Sep 9th 2023 | 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by NaughtiousMaximus
So there may be cases where a manager is paid less than someone they manage?? wouldnt that cause some level of resentment?
In my experience, yes, it can do. Don't forget your bonus is also based on your salary. People coming from UK and the rest of Europe come in on very low salaries. People coming from jobs in USA/Canada/Australia and anywhere in the Gulf have the best salaries.

A lot of the positions advertised end up on lower grades when the position is filled. E.g. Role advertised for Senior Manager, person comes in at Manager level, and probably at the bottom of the salary scale. People often come in as Leads when the position offered was a Manager role. They can then end up managing people with Manager titles etc.
 
Old Sep 12th 2023 | 4:52 pm
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Best advice as previously mentioned is to not get too hung up on the title - unless you're in the C-Suite, it won't always translate to your experience / skillset / previous titles held. As was also discussed, it's eminently possible that leads will manage managers, manager manage senior managers etc. The actual work function hierarchy doesn't necessarily translate to the pay grade title. In my experience, there's also an element of people 'making up' their titles once they get here to align them with their roles. Look at the offer and take everything from anyone else with a pinch of salt.
 
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Has anyone used the services of A1 Visa services in the UK, and if/what you got charged? Thanks in advance
 
Old Sep 15th 2023 | 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by M2ULR
Has anyone used the services of A1 Visa services in the UK, and if/what you got charged? Thanks in advance
Working with them right now. They're absolutely lovely. They're a small team working on A LOT of visa applications however they still respond quickly amazingly enough. Believe my quote was for £670 which is an agreed fixed fee with NEOM. Mind you a large chunk of this fee makes allowance for the medical exam which I think costs £330?
 
Old Sep 15th 2023 | 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by expatalex
Working with them right now. They're absolutely lovely. They're a small team working on A LOT of visa applications however they still respond quickly amazingly enough. Believe my quote was for £670 which is an agreed fixed fee with NEOM. Mind you a large chunk of this fee makes allowance for the medical exam which I think costs £330?
Thank you for responding, and I agree they have been brilliant to deal with so far. That’s reasonable I wasn’t sure what kind of a bill to expect at the end.

Did your Acro Police certificate take 4 weeks? Im looking to fly out to NEOM on the 27th of Oct and I still need to do the medical and apply for the visa.

Thanks
 
Old Sep 15th 2023 | 7:29 pm
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No problem. This forum has helped me loads and just want to return the favour! The ACRO has been the most annoying and long part of this whole process. Bit of background, ACRO had a massive cyber attack and a lot of sensitive personal information was leaked therefore they're severely backlogged and trying to regain data compliance... Regardless of that ironic hiccup... I submitted my application on 9th August and received my certificate on 8th September. They can take up to 4-6 weeks to complete.

Once you get your ACRO A1 will advise you to quickly receive your medical because the medical exam lasts for a max of 30 days therefore within the 30 day window your visa will be processed. A1 told me they can do the visa in 8 WDs. The medical exam result takes 2-3 WDs (had mine on Harley Street this past Thursday).
 
Old Sep 15th 2023 | 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by expatalex
No problem. This forum has helped me loads and just want to return the favour! The ACRO has been the most annoying and long part of this whole process. Bit of background, ACRO had a massive cyber attack and a lot of sensitive personal information was leaked therefore they're severely backlogged and trying to regain data compliance... Regardless of that ironic hiccup... I submitted my application on 9th August and received my certificate on 8th September. They can take up to 4-6 weeks to complete.

Once you get your ACRO A1 will advise you to quickly receive your medical because the medical exam lasts for a max of 30 days therefore within the 30 day window your visa will be processed. A1 told me they can do the visa in 8 WDs. The medical exam result takes 2-3 WDs (had mine on Harley Street this past Thursday).
Same here, it’s been so helpful.

Ah interesting I had no idea, I guess I won’t get my hopes up about getting it earlier. It should be the end of this month hopefully.

yes I was hoping to get the medical arranged as soon as I receive my certificate.

Have you already handed your notice in? I’ve been apprehensive until I have the flight booked but I think that won’t leave me enough time to serve my notice period.
 
Old Sep 15th 2023 | 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by M2ULR
Same here, it’s been so helpful.

Ah interesting I had no idea, I guess I won’t get my hopes up about getting it earlier. It should be the end of this month hopefully.

yes I was hoping to get the medical arranged as soon as I receive my certificate.

Have you already handed your notice in? I’ve been apprehensive until I have the flight booked but I think that won’t leave me enough time to serve my notice period.
Yeah it's a bit frustrating waiting because when you think of it it's actually a simple background check... Credence was able to do my background check pretty quickly... ACRO's hardest part seems to be just printing the form and having an officer check the results by way of quality control... But hey it's the UK, nothing is ever that simple...

Yes! You basically have to work backwards from your proposed start on site date and check your notice period. My company has been struggling so they were quite relaxed about letting me not serve the full notice period.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2023 | 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Diplo
It is. Take it or leave it my experience. Not heard of many if any people at all negotiating anything unless you're a very uniquely desirable individual going in to a C-Suite role that you've been picked for by on high. For the rest of us, the offer is very formulaic. It's based on a percentage increase from your last salary - if that fits into the band for the job you've applied for, then you get that. If it's higher by a little, then depending on your skillset and experience as well as the company's head count allocation there may be occasions where they bump roles up, but equally the opposite can happen and head costs mean that a higher role gets dropped to a lower grade.

As for negotiating things outside of the contract - accomodation types, holiday days, remote working etc? No chance.

Alas there are literally thousands of applications for each role they advertise, on top of the hand picked people that recruiters present, so there's not really any shortage of people and therefore incentive to negotiate with you.

My advice is to look at the offer, decide if it works, if not, be prepared to walk away with no expectation of it changing, certainly not by an amount that would be meaningful enough to be a yes one way and a no the other.
Hi,
I am based in Canada and I am currently interviewing for a financial analyst position at Neom ( i think it is grade 6). I am currently underpaid (Canadian salaries aren't that great anyway) and 30% increase will not be enough for us to relocate. However, I am also in the final stage of interview with a company in US (let us call it "company X", for which I expect the salary to be much better, Can I use the offer letter from "company X" to negotiate 30% increase at Neom?

Also any finance people, if they could help me with interview questions.

thanks
 
Old Sep 22nd 2023 | 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by wethenorth
Hi,
I am based in Canada and I am currently interviewing for a financial analyst position at Neom ( i think it is grade 6). I am currently underpaid (Canadian salaries aren't that great anyway) and 30% increase will not be enough for us to relocate. However, I am also in the final stage of interview with a company in US (let us call it "company X", for which I expect the salary to be much better, Can I use the offer letter from "company X" to negotiate 30% increase at Neom?

Also any finance people, if they could help me with interview questions.

thanks
Unfortunately their salary offer is pretty much non negotiable. They require your last 3 pay checks. Highly unlikely that they'll accept a counter offer by means of a basis to apply the uplift to. Sorry mate.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2023 | 8:15 pm
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Unfortunately their salary offer is pretty much non negotiable. They require your last 3 pay checks. Highly unlikely that they'll accept a counter offer by means of a basis to apply the uplift to. Sorry mate.
What if amount after 30% uplift is well below industry standards? I am sure they must have a minimum salary bracket for a specific grade? No?
 
Old Sep 22nd 2023 | 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by wethenorth
What if amount after 30% uplift is well below industry standards? I am sure they must have a minimum salary bracket for a specific grade? No?
If after the uplift, the figure is below the job grade, they'll likely either downgrade the job grade (but still expect you do the work of the original), or simply pull the offer. It's pretty black and white out here with little to no room for negotiation, I'm afraid.
 


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