Yes, you can go home and get a better visa. The question becomes - what visa would that be? It has to be something you're eligible for. Read this - really... read it. If you can answer "yes" to any of the questions, you might be eligible for a visa... otherwise, you won't be coming to the US as anything other than a visitor. We're not making up this stuff... this is the reality of US immigration - for better or worse! Read the link... and then come back and tell us what visa you're eligible for.


With respect, the "shitty waiver programme" isn't a visa... and the only reason you think it's shitty is because it doesn't currently work in your favor. It works fine for hundreds of thousands of people every year... people who aren't making decisions with their gonads.

Ian

You can do that but you will end up wasting your money on the view and trip to London and add denied view to your list of dumb immigration moves and ideas. Tourist visas are intended mainly for people from countries that aren't eligible for the visa waiver program. They are also reasonably common for retired folks who are eligible further visa waiver who want to spend the winter in warmer climbs. You are neither.

Realistically, no matter how much you want it, there is no way for you to be anything other than a tourist.

One word of warning. As stated previously, marriage in order to get a visa is illegal. You will have to go to several interviews along the journey and the interviewers aren't dumb. They will spot a fraud marriage sooner or later and then you will find yourself permanently excluded from the USA.

Listen to the advice given mate....or it will be no Visa or Visa waiver again..ever again...

My plan is now to fly back home for two weeks and in that time get a proper visa, my deadline is end of sept and I will be going back to england 15th aug and back here to the states on the 29th. in those two weeks il get a proper visa... is that a good idea? plus could the british embassy help me in anyway in new york? Im sorry guys its just im passionate about being here and im thinking about every crumb of idea there may be and you lot are the experts

Dude, you won't get a visa and you will end up in a far worse position than you are now.

Which proper visa do you intend to get within the space of 2 weeks?

They cannot help you get a visa, no. They can help you if, for example, you lose your passport.

And it doesn't seem that you're reading or understanding any of the valuable things we've been handing out to you.

Rene

It's a good idea IF you find a visa that you're eligible for *and* if it gets processed in time. Two weeks? Not likely.


I believe there's a British Consulate in NY... the Embassy is in Washington DC. That said, neither the Consulate nor Embassy will help you do what you want.

Ian

Which visa?

The US government does not give a flying one about your deadline.

And now if DHS do monitor these boards they have your travel dates.

No, you won't.

The Embassy is in DC, it's a consulate in NYC. In any case, no, they can't and they won't.

I wish you were as passionate about apostrophes, grammar and spelling.

Ok Im sorry then, it looks like I have to actually go home and maybe in time I can apply for a tourist visa and I can extend that if I want to. Thanks giys you have helped

Yup, that works. Here is where you make the appointment: http://london.usembassy.gov/visas.html


http://www.america.gov/see_you.html
Click the boxes for tools to plan your trip and to read first-hand accounts from fellow travelers.

Do yourself a favor, step back from the computer, count to ten and then read this thread again. Then read it once more. Then stop listening to your friend for immigration advice, your friend seems to be just as clueless as you.

Assuming you did not actually work illegally, there are a few things you need to understand about the B2 tourist visas and the Visa Waiver Program:

1. B2 visas are not given out like candy.
2. B2 Visas are rarely - if ever- given out to 20 year olds who are eligible to travel on the Visa Waiver Program. Odds are your B2 visa application will be denied.
3. You have to declare your denied visa when you apply for ESTA and travel on the VWP again.
4. Your ESTA application may be denied if you have been denied a visa. Sometimes ESTA is denied for this, sometimes it is not.
5. If ESTA is denied, then no more Visa Waiver travel for you. You will need a B2 tourist visa, which probably will be denied. Catch-22.
6. If ESTA is not denied, you can count on a trip to secondary inspection every time you try to enter the US. Good luck with that.
7. If you overstay a B2 visa, the visa is automatically voided.
8. An application to extend a B2 stay is not likely to be successful unless you have a compelling reason to remain in the US. Wanting to shack up with your girlfriend is not a compelling reason.

I am not even going to get into the subject of back to back visits to the US with little time spent abroad in between visits. That's a whole other can of worms.

You have been given good advice in this thread, I suggest you follow it. Go home, work on the relationship, and come back for another VWP visit next year. Forget about the B2 tourist visa.

Of course you are free to make your own decisions as to what you want to do. It is your life and your future opportunities at stake, not ours. When you are done cutting corners and find yourself banned from the US, just remember that we told you so.

I can understand that you want to find a way to spend more than 90 days in the US. But as Mick Jagger once wrote: "You can't always get what you want".

At least not right away.

I was just thinking the same.
I haven't posted much on here as I'm not in a position to give advice, but I do read a lot of the threads and have noticed the posters who come on with genuine visa problems/questions don't always get much of a response, but the wind-up merchants threads go on for pages and pages.

Personally, I don't think it's a wind up, and I'm in a better position to know.

Not everyone has the same level of world experience and 'want' is a very powerful motivator. It's still worth it to me to try to explain some of the basic facts of life to a young person; I did a lot of traveling at that age myself.

A little kindness, and sharing of your experiences may have a big impact on someone else's life.
To this OP, this IS a genuine visa problem/question.

Some of the rest of the posts you're talking about simply can not be answered on a message board, or the question doesn't become a conversation that needs pages of posts.

I will be pruning some of the nonsense out of this thread though. I'm reminding contributors of our mutual desire to keep this forum polite and 'professional' in the way we deal with each other.

To the Original Poster, your situation is not too different from that of another member not long ago. He was here on the VWP, didn't want to go home, got married and filed for adjustment. The marriage quickly broke down, however, leaving him with more difficult choices to make.

I suggest you go home before your 90 days are up, and build your relationship from afar. If your young love and passion can't survive the time and miles, it wasn't meant to be and you can both move on. If it does survive, you can plan your future together and make your immigration arrangements properly. Good luck.

This is a gentle reminder to all that it's an extremely bad idea to give,, or seek, immigration advice in private message or email. This is for everyone's protection and benefit. The purpose of the group is to offer information that will be helpful to not only the OP but others who'll read your archived words.

Thanks.