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Old Jun 15th 2010 | 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by Greenhill
16 Jun...predictions before 8:30am AST please!

* Honduras 0 Chile 0
* Spain 0 Switzerland 0
* SouthAfrica 0 Uruguay 0
LordVader Honduras 1 Chile 1
LordVader Spain 3 Switzerland 1
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Old Jun 15th 2010 | 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Agreed about the CIV vs Portugal game. Perhaps it's just me, but I rarely find football dull unless it's played at a really low level, such as in the MLS.

Like any sport though, you have to know it well enough to appreciate watching it.
I agree.

I really enjoyed South Africa - Mexico, France - Uruguay, Germany - Australia, Holland - Denmark and today's Ivory Coast - Portugal game.

The only game I've found particularly dull was England. The Argentina game was ok.

Watching how team's keep posession, organise themselves defensively, counter-attack etc....is all just as interesting as creating chances.

I think if you haven't played the game it is hard to relate too so I can understand if Lord Vader find's it dull from that perspective....as I and the rest of the world have found it hard to see enjoyment in their North American sports.

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Old Jun 15th 2010 | 10:44 am
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Alright, unless anyone has any other ideas (I don't mind complicated stuff but sometimes that doesn't make for a good game for everyone) I'll get that set up for next week.

I like the idea of a joker "card" too: where each person can play it on one match only and will get double points from an accurate result (2 pts for winner, 6 pts winner and goal difference). Sound good?

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Cross post. That works too. Whatever's easier for you.
 
Old Jun 15th 2010 | 10:47 am
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JamesM Honduras 1 Chile 1
JamesM Spain 2 Switzerland 0
JamesM SouthAfrica 1 Uruguay 2

Let's hope my predictive powers fair better tomorrow!
 
Old Jun 15th 2010 | 11:10 am
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Old Jun 15th 2010 | 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader
I wouldn't say I am enjoying the games so much as participating in the prediction game, which is something I like doing in all sports. I still find the game itself very dull and seriously lacking excitement. The product on display will do nothing to promote the sport in NA. The hype is about the event and not the sport. Maybe I would a feel bit different if Canada was playing, at least I would have an actual team to cheer for (outside of the commonwealth and the USA), but the game needs to be more open IMO. All the stereotypes are showing their colours so far. Now that the game with the USA is over I hope England or Germany wins it.
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Really? Wasn't raised with football either but I find it a pretty easy game to follow. The excitement depends on the teams...just like hockey really. IMO it's the simplicity that's made it so popular (and that you don't have to spend huge $$$ on gear to play it, unlike iced hockey).
That is the thing, it is way too easy to follow and far too predictable. The rules favor the defenses and limit the more talented players and offensive schemes. Soccer is the world war one of sports. The team that has scored first has not lost so far, there has not been one single lead change during the entire competition so far. It seems the only hope that the team that gets scored on first has is a draw. I get sick of people telling me that my geographic location means that me is too stoopid ta unnerstan dat tactics are a part of soccer, duh, tactics are a part of every sport ever played. You are right though, anyone can play the game, all that is required is a ball.

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Old Jun 15th 2010 | 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Agreed about the CIV vs Portugal game. Perhaps it's just me, but I rarely find football dull unless it's played at a really low level, such as in the MLS.

Like any sport though, you have to know it well enough to appreciate watching it.
I still watch as much as I can. Tactics can be interesting but rarely exciting. I haven't seen any of today's games today, but what I have seen so far are mostly teams that are afraid to lose. None of the swagger of a great team, no one taking a defense apart and little of the brilliance of supposedly the best players in the world.

You can have exciting football at any level if you care about the result. However, when I am watching the best teams in the world I want more than the appreciation of how each team sets up to smother the creativity of the other.

Maybe the objective of the first round is not to lose. It should get better when the results mean something.
 
Old Jun 15th 2010 | 1:05 pm
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Old Jun 15th 2010 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader
What does not liking a sport have to do with being globally aware? Is it a case of many others like it so you have to? Cliff jumping, etc? In Toronto it is big because the foreigners (ei you) and other recent immigrants cheer for the country they came from or identity their ancestry with. It has more to do with the event. The sport is as dull as a rusty razor as far a I am concerned. Fun to have everyone together though.
No one gives a toss whether Americans or Canadians like football.
 
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No one gives a toss whether Americans or Canadians like football.
Well said.
 
Old Jun 15th 2010 | 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
Maybe the objective of the first round is not to lose. It should get better when the results mean something.
Abso-bloody-lutely. I should have been keeping to my day one strategy of predicting a 1-1 draw in every team's first match.
 
Old Jun 15th 2010 | 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Well said.
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Old Jun 16th 2010 | 12:31 am
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I notice with some wry amusement that the cheesy chav flags I brought back from the motherland for my car are starting to fray around the edges already.

A metaphor for Englands world cup performance perhaps. I fully expect them to fall totally apart, possibly landing in a nearby pile of manure before the whole thing is through...
 
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Originally Posted by JamesM
The World Cup is the biggest sporting event I have ever witnessed in Toronto.
Me too.

I'm confused by the technical terminology though. Could someone please have a go at translating the following from English:

"Initially it seemed the Koreans were wobbling. In the second minute, Robinho lollipopped down the left before nutmegging Jong Hyok-cha and passing to Kaká, who was tackled as he prepared to shoot."

From: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...p-match-report
 
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Me too.

I'm confused by the technical terminology though. Could someone please have a go at translating the following from English:

"Initially it seemed the Koreans were wobbling. In the second minute, Robinho lollipopped down the left before nutmegging Jong Hyok-cha and passing to Kaká, who was tackled as he prepared to shoot."

From: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...p-match-report
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