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Old Mar 25th 2014 | 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_
That agreement they just signed is pretty much de facto EU membership, from what I read it's got more to it than EFTA membership although there is no free movement of people.

Yeah, that's what stopped Romania and Bulgaria from joining, after all.

The reason they haven't joined is because Germany opposes it, because they're worried about having a large muslim country in the EU and having a lot of Turks move to Germany. If it hadn't of been for the recession, I reckon they'd be members by now.
EU membership for Ukraine is still quite a few years away yet. Let's see what their elections bring first.

The Romania and Bulgaria examples are great ones as to why the EU shouldn't rush into expanding. The Ukrainian economy needs more stability. This agreement may go some way to helping, with a free trade area within 10 years, and exchange in intellect etc. But lets see what happens to the billions of dollars the world is about to pump into the Ukrainian govt. over next couple years and see if it happens to coincide with an influx of country estate popping up all around Kiev!

I would quite like to see Ukraine join the EU though, I liked it there when I visited and would definitely go back (just not right now!).
 
Old Mar 25th 2014 | 11:22 am
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I think if the EU was doing really well the Serbs wouldn't have re-elected the SNS quite as readily. In any case, (man of action that I am), not content to passively boycot Russian vodka I'm promoting the superior Polish product. It's made from the same thing as chips, how can that not be great?
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Old Mar 25th 2014 | 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Shard
The whole EU worries about that with Turkey. Although, ironically, Turkish muslims would probably moderate the devout muslims from other parts.
True!
 
Old Mar 25th 2014 | 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by burks
EU membership for Ukraine is still quite a few years away yet. Let's see what their elections bring first.

The Romania and Bulgaria examples are great ones as to why the EU shouldn't rush into expanding. The Ukrainian economy needs more stability. This agreement may go some way to helping, with a free trade area within 10 years, and exchange in intellect etc. But lets see what happens to the billions of dollars the world is about to pump into the Ukrainian govt. over next couple years and see if it happens to coincide with an influx of country estate popping up all around Kiev!

I would quite like to see Ukraine join the EU though, I liked it there when I visited and would definitely go back (just not right now!).
I agree!
 
Old May 1st 2014 | 8:45 am
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The CBC is so full of Rob Ford and we've become inured to news from the Ukraine. Not that nothing's been happening.... I'm curious how this can be solved now. Half a dozen cities with government and police buildings occupied or under siege. Can the government throw them a bone and say we'll allow Donetsk as a free city (ala Danzig) and yoiu can just give back the rest? Aljazeera has a good story on the current situation but I couldn't make the link work.
 

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