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But they'll taste much better after brexit..

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It's not all over for labour, history repeating itself as it appears to be with a strong willed sour faced woman taking on a white haired tramp like creature who's taken the labour party too far left for many's liking. When labour lose, Foot, sorry Corbyn will be forced out of his role and then a ginger Welshman will ride in and save the party, oh hang on no it is all over for them, at least until Euan Blair becomes as smarmy as his Dad and marries Pete Doherty. Ah the ebb and flow of politics,

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Suddenly, Dave doesn't seem so bad...

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ah, pig shagger Dave, it's really not been one of the best periods in British politics has it? haha

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Unless 'those who must not be named' hack May's emails to show that she's in league with the devil in Brussels, then she's assured of a landslide of epic proportions.

But what will this latter day Boudicca do with her majority? Certainly she'll be able to distance herself from some of the less flexible members of the party, but dare she ignore them completely? The answer is No. They'll snipe from their columns in a grateful press and she'll have to be seen to stand up for what will be portrayed as unreasonable and vindictive demands.

The fortunes of the labour party are out of their hands and rely totally on what May does. Most of he UK, ie the UK that voted for brexit, now sees itself as under siege from an ungrateful and spiteful EU and any party that appears to be sensitive to EU arguments will be punished at the ballot box. Unfortunately for the labour party their major constituencies and the strength of the brexit vote tend to coincide and this does not suggest a labour resurrection any time soon.

May will be returned again at the election following this one because the brexit deal will be portrayed as demonstrating the viciousness of the EU commission and EU politicians will queue up to blame May's government en masse for the failure of the negotiations (if they ever get started) and this will anger further the UK electorate.

The labour party may have to wait a decade and several different leaders before a possibility of regaining power. We can only wait with trepidation for a 'Nouveau Labour' party to be born phoenix-like from the ashes of the old. Diane Abbott, may well become leader by this time and I wouldn't want to be her opponent at all.

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It's all getting rather Star Warsy, rebels versus the federation and all. I think that it's profoundly sad that in order to beat the tories labour needs to become 'soft' tories, and betray their roots. Corbyn is only unelectable because we all only think of ourselves in modern society.

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I think it's more the company he keeps: John McDonald, Diane Abbot, and his refusal to take a clear stand on things like the EU and Trident. Plus the fact that his Labour colleagues have such little faith in him. Oh, and the beard. And that crappy blue car he drives around in.

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Corbyn also has the Blair legacy to deal with.
I made a promise to myself, an earstwhile member of the Young Socialists, that following the Iraq invasion I would never ever vote Labour ever again. I doubt I was alone.

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Remember when Blair got in? They were playing D-ream - Things can only get better, haha what a tool

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I think I was.. or was that a fool?

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haha, I voted labour for years like you, but Blair destroyed everything they were supposed to stand for, that's why I can't condemn Corbyn. He's the only politician who'd stop and give you a jump start if you'd broken down, or that's the feeling I get anyhow.

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What about the Beast of Bolsover? :lol:

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He may be the only political leader with any concept of the existence of a jump start. I lived in the northeast when Tony Blair was only the MP for Sedgfield, and he was a smug git even then. I was working by the time John Smith died, and I had my fingers crossed for John Prescott, as the lesser of two evils. Jeremy doesn't stand a chance against the combined efforts of the right-wing media, and the political Labour Party, while the metropolitan liberals fail to give the zero-hour contract jam's someone else to blame for the fact that others are poorer and more exploited than they are.

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Ah, John Smith, now there was a labour leader who let you belive he could have done the job, and done it well. A catastrophe for labour when he died.

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what a legend, Dodgy Dave lol