Trumps First week
#391
Barcelona attack:
How much more embarrassing can he get?
General Pershing on How to Stop Islamic Terrorists
How much more embarrassing can he get?
General Pershing on How to Stop Islamic Terrorists
#395
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/17/medi...ers/index.html
Using the Klan hood as a #MAGAphone says a fair bit.
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Though I'm no fan, I do wonder what credit the man would get if he were responsible for doing something great for America, or even the world. I suspect someone else would get the credit for any good bits, whether deserved or not..
#398
He gets all manner of credit for reducing immigration to the US, what more do you want?
#400
There's no left wing in America. If he did something that was what Jeremy Corbyn wanted it'd be by accident so, no, I wouldn't expect him to get credit. What sort of thing do you have in mind?
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If there is a big chunk of society that will never see any good in you, or give you credit for anything you do, then that chunk of society has rendered itself largely irrelevant, at least until the next election.
What's the point in trying to placate someone if there's no chance of it working?
#402
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.
What's he done that deserves credit? Have you ever known a political leader so badly thought of? Even Reagan wasn't like this. Has there ever been anyone who has lost so many of his appointments, so soon?
He might (still) be popular with a few supporters but they can't point to anything good except to say "he's different" and they're not wrong about that.
There's an old line about at least Hitler/Mussolini got the trains to run on time. I don't see anyone saying "at least..." in Trump's case.
Who is Trump trying to placate?
He might (still) be popular with a few supporters but they can't point to anything good except to say "he's different" and they're not wrong about that.

There's an old line about at least Hitler/Mussolini got the trains to run on time. I don't see anyone saying "at least..." in Trump's case.
What's the point in trying to placate someone if there's no chance of it working?
#403
Nothing particular in mind, but you've answered my question.
If there is a big chunk of society that will never see any good in you, or give you credit for anything you do, then that chunk of society has rendered itself largely irrelevant, at least until the next election.
What's the point in trying to placate someone if there's no chance of it working?
If there is a big chunk of society that will never see any good in you, or give you credit for anything you do, then that chunk of society has rendered itself largely irrelevant, at least until the next election.
What's the point in trying to placate someone if there's no chance of it working?
Trump is personally a boorish pig so he'll always be regarded in the same light as R. Kelly or Jimmy Savile, he'll never be well regarded personally. This contrasts with, for example, Jimmy Carter, widely thought to have been a poor President but a great man. Trump might achieve "asshole but effective" if he was prepared to address the concerns of a wider audience, to placate, as you put it, but he's not going to.
Politically, it's not the easily offended fringe that's the concern with Trump but the alienation of the moderate right. Because he's pissed off even the likes of McConnell and Ryan he cannot get very much done. Some of his destructive policies are having an impact, American cities will flood more often thanks to his rescinding climate change support funding to them, but the major ones; the wall, expanding foreign wars, taxing the poor for the benefit of the rich, the promotion of ill heath and untended injuries, are like to remain unimplemented until he's ousted.
I suspect the signature achievement of his term thus far, a reduction in immigration, was not the result of policy, nor even of bluster, but simple a consequence of no one wanting to be in the same country as him.







