Originally Posted by bats

North Korea has bern threatening the US for some time it seems certainly before Trumps presidency. His style is not er the usual diplomatic and considered one, government by Tweeting is a new method. Both leaders come over as strutting, posturing teenage thugs so maybe they understand each other.

Did I read something that bothe South Korea and China have told them to tone it down a bit?

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian

He uses his personal twitter account for personal tweets and his POTUS for "presidential" ones, not unlike other leaders around the world. I get that it is easier to label Trump foolish.

The whole world has been telling North Korea to tone it down a bit for some time. I would suggest that the UN has done so too and, thankfully, North Korea appears to have realised that its behaviour has been suicidal and has now backed down.

I'd suggest that China gets its own house in order before it gives "advice" to another state.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian

I, personally, don't think it matters whether he uses his "Trump" account or his "POTUS" one but I accept that others do. It's the content that matters and, personally, I don't believe the message should be treated differently whether its delivered via twitter, a written statement, an interview, or a "Presidential Address" from the oval office.

Mr. Trudeau uses twitter too to deliver political statements, as do many other heads of government.

Originally Posted by Oakvillian

No he doesn't. And that is where the problem manifests itself most obviously. Nothing at all about Trump's presidency can be separated from his personal agenda - it's all about Donald Trump, how wonderful he is, and what's in it for him.

China has it's own very sound reasons for its stance on North Korea. Pyongyang provides a convenient buffer in the geopolitical gamesmanship of the north-east Asian region, which is why the DPRK has been given as much leeway as it has in the past (and, frankly, is why the UN turns a blind eye to much of what goes on - certainly the permanent members of the security council are all perfectly aware of the purpose served by China's apparent lenience and DPRK's ability to push everyone else's buttons...).

Trump's intemperate rhetoric has changed the game, which - while it may eventually have positive consequences if the North Korean regime pushes too hard against China's support - makes the entire region a much more likely flashpoint for global conflict. The world is, bigly, a more dangerous place because POTUS can't keep his thumbs off his phone. Sad.

Originally Posted by bats

So why did you mention that he has two accounts and uses them separately?

Content yes, and style too using Twitter to threaten retribution of "fire and fury" is an example of his style which is not exactly standard diplomatic phrasing.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian

I do not have a twitter account so I have no idea if he does mix the uses of his two separate accounts and, even if he does, I don't believe there is any mileage to be gained by arguing about that for the reasons stated above.

From the media excerpt that I saw, his "fire and fury" was delivered orally. I have no idea if he reiterated it in a tweet and, if he did, I don't believe that adds anything to the argument. Nobody is disputing that he said it and, unless you can demonstrate to me how saying something on TV is different to tweeting it (both will be available for a long time) I can't see a difference.

Originally Posted by Danny B

One good example is of a gif he tweeted out on July 2nd of him wrestling a CNN reporter to the ground (Google it).
How could he explain that in a TV statement?

I heard that this morning he re-tweeted a cartoon of a trump train crashing into a CNN reporter. He has since deleted it, not surprising after the weekends events.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian

I do not have a twitter account so I have no idea if he does mix the uses of his two separate accounts and, even if he does, I don't believe there is any mileage to be gained by arguing about that for the reasons stated above.

From the media excerpt that I saw, his "fire and fury" was delivered orally. I have no idea if he reiterated it in a tweet and, if he did, I don't believe that adds anything to the argument. Nobody is disputing that he said it and, unless you can demonstrate to me how saying something on TV is different to tweeting it (both will be available for a long time) I can't see a difference.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian

While I am not going to disagree with anything you have stated, thumbing one's phone doesn't breach anything the UN has told you not to do. Launching missiles does.

I appreciate that I may be alone here, but I believe that it is a mistake to continue to allow North Korea to behave as it has been.

I am not here to defend anything Trump has done, but I can't see how anyone can criticise one, without also criticising the other too.

Without the launching of those missiles, Trump would have little to say about generating a "flashpoint for global conflict."

Originally Posted by BristolUK

And another three have joined the dissenting escapees in the last 24 hours.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321

At this point Pence would be a better option in the White House, the republicans in congress really need to start considering impeachment and/or pressure Trump to resign.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321

At this point Pence would be a better option in the White House, the republicans in congress really need to start considering impeachment and/or pressure Trump to resign.

Originally Posted by Jsmth321

At this point Pence would be a better option...