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Rainey69 Dec 30th 2008 4:38 pm

Re: Tonight
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::p

Yogi-Bear Dec 31st 2008 12:41 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by dboy (Post 7113132)
You should try inner city manchester and let me know what you think. I can't imagine the kind of life you lead in the UK if you have never come across a yob!

Well I think "Christmasoompa" lives in some sort of Utopia ;)

Y

Yogi-Bear Dec 31st 2008 12:47 am

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Originally Posted by Rainey69 (Post 7113609)
Hey guys come on.....i know you all mean well and bless you for your advice which i am sure she appreciates, but please remember you have all moved away from it now......thank god, you are no longer living the nightmare anymore. Please just give her a little space and let her vent. We all need to vent sometimes and we need to support where we can. If TT is suffering stress due to this situ, which would not be surprising, having a go will not help her at this moment in time.

Please don't take my comments wrong as i am only trying to put another view forward and my intention is not to offend.:wub::wub:

Well said Rainey, she must be at the end of her wits having to put up with that every night.

Easy for me to say - I know. But, she needs to calm down a little, or at this rate she's going to make herself seriously ill!

It really makes you wander what the hell we pay the authorities for? Nobody should have to live and suffer like this because of mindless trash!

Y

dbd33 Dec 31st 2008 12:49 am

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Originally Posted by Yogi-Bear (Post 7114500)
Well I think "Christmasoompa" lives in some sort of Utopia ;)

Y

I don't think that's the case but a lot would depend on location and lifestyle. My mother, for example, is nonplussed by all this yobbishness in the Mail as she doesn't see any. She doesn't see any because:

- she lives in a dull affluent town on the Costa Geriatrica

- she doesn't go to the middle of town late on a Friday or Saturday night

- she grew up poor in the east end and then had three boys so she has a high threshold of yob detection. She wouldn't, for example, consider two drunk teenagers fighting with fists to be disorderly conduct as she's always been exposed to that.

tinytears apparently represents something of the other extreme. She attacked the neighbour's dog apparently because the neighbour was walking it in a hooded sweatshirt. She wants to be careful in Canada, there's a lot of dog walking and hood wearing here.

moondevil Dec 31st 2008 12:49 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by Yogi-Bear (Post 7114500)
Well I think "Christmasoompa" lives in some sort of Utopia ;)

Y

:eek::eek:;);)

so we nip over and drop them at moss side at midnight tonight, we will see who makes it out to tell us how they got on, some of these on here should go a day in the life of tiny tears and come back and tell us how they got on.

I hope that tiny tears gets her wish and 2009 is the year she get out of that hole and lives her dream, i remember being in a simular place and it is really not nice, but it will happen hun......you will get the last laugh.........

Good luck for 2009, sorry about last night me and rainey just needed to lighten the thread up :unsure::unsure:

dbd33 Dec 31st 2008 12:53 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 7114525)
so we nip over and drop them at moss side at midnight tonight, we will see who makes it out to tell us how they got on, some of these on here should go a day in the life of tiny tears and come back and tell us how they got on.

Does tinytears live in "moss side"? If not, it's a red herring, no one disputes that there are rough parts of the UK and of Canada.

christmasoompa Dec 31st 2008 12:55 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by Yogi-Bear (Post 7114500)
Well I think "Christmasoompa" lives in some sort of Utopia ;)

Y

Oh FFS. Is it National 'Pick on Christmasoompa Week' and you've all neglected to tell me or something?!?

I don't live in Utopia, I just live in a small village in a nice area. Yes, I'm lucky, and yes, I have acknowledged before (and will do it again just to get rid of any doubt once and for all) that there *are* areas in the UK that are crap and horrible and full of yobs (inner city Manchester clearly being a prime example). But there are also a lot of other areas, such as where I live (and where friends/family live, and where we holiday in Devon), that are still nice and full of decent people, where crime is unheard of and children are unfailingly polite.

moondevil Dec 31st 2008 12:58 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7114523)
I don't think that's the case but a lot would depend on location and lifestyle. My mother, for example, is nonplussed by all this yobbishness in the Mail as she doesn't see any. She doesn't see any because:

- she lives in a dull affluent town on the Costa Geriatrica

- she doesn't go to the middle of town late on a Friday or Saturday night

- she grew up poor in the east end and then had three boys so she has a high threshold of yob detection. She wouldn't, for example, consider two drunk teenagers fighting with fists to be disorderly conduct as she's always been exposed to that.

tinytears apparently represents something of the other extreme. She attacked the neighbour's dog apparently because the neighbour was walking it in a hooded sweatshirt. She wants to be careful in Canada, there's a lot of dog walking and hood wearing here.

You need to read and speak to the girl to know why she did this, these people have made her life bad for such a long time, the person who this was pointed at was the very one that was causing hassle, i dont think it was attended to hit someone that has not caused her life hell.............

It is not the people that attack each other that is the problem in a lot of areas of the uk, its the ones that target others to get a kick from it, the police are unable to do anything, the police try with the parents to deal with the problem, but alot of the time its the parents that are the problem.

I have done volunteer work back in the uk and have seen this first hand, sometimes easier to deal with the kids than the adults :curse:

It's ok to sit here in canada and say xxxxx. but go and live her life for awhile and get off your soap box :curse:

dbd33 Dec 31st 2008 1:04 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 7114545)
You need to read and speak to the girl to know why she did this, these people have made her life bad for such a long time, the person who this was pointed at was the very one that was causing hassle, i dont think it was attended to hit someone that has not caused her life hell.............

I've read her threads. At first she seems to be complaining about yobs from elsewhere congregating at the bottom of her garden. Subsequently she mentions seeing the dog walker coming out with the dog which suggests that the dog owner, at least, lives in her street. Perhaps this is, in fact, just a spat between neighbours.


Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 7114545)
It's ok to sit here in canada and say xxxxx. but go and live her life for awhile and get off your soap box :curse:

It's no more being on a soap box to say "take a Midol" than it is to say "eek, monsters over my fence".

moondevil Dec 31st 2008 1:05 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7114531)
Does tinytears live in "moss side"? If not, it's a red herring, no one disputes that there are rough parts of the UK and of Canada.

Clearly she has reported that her location is not to be discussed, i would not use her location due to her situation, moss side is a clear example as most people have heard of its location.

For someone in the uk, living in high class areas is not the option ;)
The area that i come from was a high area a few years ago, sadly some bad familys moved in and the streets are not that safe, also there has become areas that i would not walk in day/night

I have friends in different parts of the uk, plus family and there kids are nice, polite and happy being in the uk
Sometimes its not the area that you are mad at, its the policys that they have in place, so the option is to get out

Like i said "go and live in her shoes for awhile" :eek:

moondevil Dec 31st 2008 1:06 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7114555)
I've read her threads. At first she seems to be complaining about yobs from elsewhere congregating at the bottom of her garden. Subsequently she mentions seeing the dog walker coming out with the dog which suggests that the dog owner, at least, lives in her street. Perhaps this is, in fact, just a spat between neighbours.



It's no more being on a soap box to say "take a Midol" than it is to say "eek, monsters over my fence".

Would be better if they was monster.....i think they have a law for that :p

Yogi-Bear Dec 31st 2008 1:10 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7114523)
I don't think that's the case but a lot would depend on location and lifestyle. My mother, for example, is nonplussed by all this yobbishness in the Mail as she doesn't see any. She doesn't see any because:

- she lives in a dull affluent town on the Costa Geriatrica

- she doesn't go to the middle of town late on a Friday or Saturday night

- she grew up poor in the east end and then had three boys so she has a high threshold of yob detection. She wouldn't, for example, consider two drunk teenagers fighting with fists to be disorderly conduct as she's always been exposed to that.

tinytears apparently represents something of the other extreme. She attacked the neighbour's dog apparently because the neighbour was walking it in a hooded sweatshirt. She wants to be careful in Canada, there's a lot of dog walking and hood wearing here.

Your Mom sounds like "Old School" db and a very tough lady! They were the true "Brits" that era! I doubt much would phase anyone being post war time - truly and heroic bunch :).

The part I've highlighted in Red? Hmmm are you serious? :blink:

y

dbd33 Dec 31st 2008 1:12 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 7114557)
Clearly she has reported that her location is not to be discussed, i would not use her location due to her situation, moss side is a clear example as most people have heard of its location.

But it's not typical of the UK. If you want to make a broader point, that "the country has gone to the dogs", it's not reasonable to cite the worst part of the country as being typical. Otherwise Canada should be represented by Rexdale or an Indian Reservation.


Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 7114557)
For someone in the uk, living in high class areas is not the option ;)

tinytears has repeatedly asserted that she lives in an affluent area, she explicitly rejects the idea that she lives in a dump and suggests that the whole country is as she depicts her street. If you're saying that people from rough parts of the UK do well by moving to Canada because variations in the price of property mean they can upgrade the area in which they live, I would have completely agreed before the recent slump in UK house prices.


Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 7114557)
Like i said "go and live in her shoes for awhile" :eek:

I come from a place such as she describes. I've no need to wear her stilletos now (though I might choose to do so).

Yogi-Bear Dec 31st 2008 1:13 am

Re: Tonight
 

Originally Posted by moondevil (Post 7114525)
:eek::eek:;);)

so we nip over and drop them at moss side at midnight tonight, we will see who makes it out to tell us how they got on, some of these on here should go a day in the life of tiny tears and come back and tell us how they got on.

I hope that tiny tears gets her wish and 2009 is the year she get out of that hole and lives her dream, i remember being in a simular place and it is really not nice, but it will happen hun......you will get the last laugh.........

Good luck for 2009, sorry about last night me and rainey just needed to lighten the thread up :unsure::unsure:

You did that alright ;)

Happy New Year to you Moondevil - and all :)

Yogi :)

dbd33 Dec 31st 2008 1:17 am

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Originally Posted by Yogi-Bear (Post 7114572)
The part I've highlighted in Red? Hmmm are you serious? :blink:

Yes, from the "yob" thread header:

"Tried it out in the middle of the night when one of the hoodies came out to walk his dog - the dog went ballistic and said hoodie started spinning round and around to try to find the noise."

Plainly the "hoodie" lives nearby.


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