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Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by Exilelass
(Post 8584866)
It is up to us, as immigrants ourselves, to integrate ourselves into Canadian society and not expect it to change to us.
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Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 8584904)
Unless it includes English Back Bacon;)
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Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by lmartin999
(Post 8584909)
I just found that one. Of course I am now also worried that we are back on the subject of bacon in two threads. It's only a matter of time....
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Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by mags1972
(Post 8584878)
"Bollocks", something you obviously know alot about judging from your posts on here.
You arent here, I am, I know what I was told and I've better things to do than make shit up so kindly go annoy somebody who gives a s***!!! |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Why do people complain about being swamped by alien culture and then eat Indian/Italian/French/Spanish/Greek/Turkish/American food, drink beer/wine/liqueurs/coke? Why not stay at home drink mead and eat boiled beef?
It's just a way of making yourself feel good by justifying your prejudices. If anyone really wanted to remove outside influences from British society then they would stop watching TV and movies, and stop shopping in multinational stores too. Instead of complaining about being swamped people could do things to preserve English customs. Maybe learn country dancing, Morris dancing. What about folk singing? Hold a May Fair, dance round a maypole. Make corn dollies?? I'm curious, exactly what aspects of English life are being eroded, and what Englishness is swamping Scotland? |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 8584348)
Plus it's an article in the Sun ;)
. I was just back and St George was everywhere...I think part of the problem is the BNP hijacking certain things...tossers...ruining it for everyone... |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by lmartin999
(Post 8584896)
See, this is the kind of phrase I have trouble understanding as it lacks any kind of specificity. What do you think a person should do to 'integrate themselves'? Or is it more that you think there are things they should stop doing? If so, why?
What is it you think that immigrants to the UK (or anywhere else) are expecting it to change for them? I think the first thing an immigrant should do is to speak the language of the new country. By all means speak your own language in your own home, but once out in the street you need to speak the language of the country. Learning how 'the natives' do things and not attempting to push our way; is another I think is important. "Getting things done" was how one friend of mine (who is an immigrant to Scotland) described his tenure on a local committee; it was described in quite a different way by the locals! I think some people, most certainly not all, expect that they should pick up their old life in new surrounding. It is a joke, I am sure, but the stories of the Brits buying home in the South of Spain and then turning the local area into an extension of the UK would be an example; albeit far fetched. Really, I would say that sensitivity to the people and ways of your new country is very important. Being considerate and aware that you are a guest in their home. Gradually they will want to know about our ways and may even be interested enough to eat Wiltshire Bacon, but to be accepted and to become integrated into THEIR society requires, I believe, humility and sensitivity. Does that answer any of your questions? |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 8584904)
Unless it includes English Back Bacon;)
. I'd rather have Ayrshire, but Wiltshire will do.:D |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
How may British settlers in Australia learn Aboriginal language and culture?
OK Jenny Agutter went Walkabout. |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by mags1972
(Post 8584826)
I posted this thread because I was told of the Town centre ban on St George's Flags and it made me angry and sad. The only mention of St. George's Flag in the minutes of the Rotherham Municipal Council is a motion to fly it at the Rotherham Visitors Centre on St. George's Day 2009. http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/site/cus...eorge%27s+Flag Perhaps you wanted to believe it? |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by Exilelass
(Post 8584956)
These are interesting questions.
I think the first thing an immigrant should do is to speak the language of the new country. By all means speak your own language in your own home, but once out in the street you need to speak the language of the country. |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by Exilelass
(Post 8584956)
These are interesting questions.
I think the first thing an immigrant should do is to speak the language of the new country. By all means speak your own language in your own home, but once out in the street you need to speak the language of the country. Learning how 'the natives' do things and not attempting to push our way; is another I think is important. "Getting things done" was how one friend of mine (who is an immigrant to Scotland) described his tenure on a local committee; it was described in quite a different way by the locals! I think some people, most certainly not all, expect that they should pick up their old life in new surrounding. It is a joke, I am sure, but the stories of the Brits buying home in the South of Spain and then turning the local area into an extension of the UK would be an example; albeit far fetched. Really, I would say that sensitivity to the people and ways of your new country is very important. Being considerate and aware that you are a guest in their home. Gradually they will want to know about our ways and may even be interested enough to eat Wiltshire Bacon, but to be accepted and to become integrated into THEIR society requires, I believe, humility and sensitivity. Does that answer any of your questions? This is pretty much the exact opposite of what I think immigration should be. It should be about welcoming new cultures and accepting the differences. The irony is is that most people in the UK are actually quite good at this, it's just the tabloids that seem to stir things up. I can guarantee that during the World Cup there will be flags of many nations flown in Vancouver without the "locals" complaining that the immigrants aren't fitting in. |
Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by vancouverism
(Post 8584971)
The irony is is that most people in the UK are actually quite good at this
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Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by vancouverism
(Post 8584971)
I can guarantee that during the World Cup there will be flags of many nations flown in Vancouver without the "locals" complaining that the immigrants aren't fitting in.
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Re: St George's flag, denied!!!
Originally Posted by Exilelass
(Post 8584956)
These are interesting questions.
I think the first thing an immigrant should do is to speak the language of the new country. By all means speak your own language in your own home, but once out in the street you need to speak the language of the country. Learning how 'the natives' do things and not attempting to push our way; is another I think is important. "Getting things done" was how one friend of mine (who is an immigrant to Scotland) described his tenure on a local committee; it was described in quite a different way by the locals! I think some people, most certainly not all, expect that they should pick up their old life in new surrounding. It is a joke, I am sure, but the stories of the Brits buying home in the South of Spain and then turning the local area into an extension of the UK would be an example; albeit far fetched. Really, I would say that sensitivity to the people and ways of your new country is very important. Being considerate and aware that you are a guest in their home. Gradually they will want to know about our ways and may even be interested enough to eat Wiltshire Bacon, but to be accepted and to become integrated into THEIR society requires, I believe, humility and sensitivity. Does that answer any of your questions? Immigrants aren't guests, tourists are. |
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