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Old Jan 24th 2013 | 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by Inse
Accountability and the federal government can rarely be mentioned in the same sentence.
Neither can Accountability and the leaders of the First Nations bands
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by Inse
Accountability and the federal government can rarely be mentioned in the same sentence.
If it cannot, it's the fault of the electorate
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
It doesn't matter. Whether you agree with her or not she has made her point and got it into the press. From that perspective her "hunger strike" was a success. And also ice cream isn't food.
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Though you have to admit, when she brings out her DVD the before and after shots on the front cover won't be as convincing as some of the other celebrity diet ones have been.
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 9:28 am
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It wasnt a proper hunger strike - she took no solid food ! Allegedly only chicken broth and medicinal herbal tea! Pfft


( and liquidised makes bars me thinks )
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
If it cannot, it's the fault of the electorate
Sadly, I think you over-estimate the real influence of the electorate on politicians. Democracy is a sheep in wolf's clothing.
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 9:33 am
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Idle no More wasn't supposed to be about Chief Spence, but she sure tried to make it about her.

Anyway...I'm not 100% clear on the issues but I do know this. The First Nations seem pretty disadvantaged from everything I've seen. This is similar to indigenous people in other former British colonies like NZ and Oz and the USA. So, yeah. Something should be done. What I don't know. The current system clearly isn't working.
 
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
Sadly, I think you over-estimate the real influence of the electorate on politicians. Democracy is a sheep in wolf's clothing.
A lot of things in Canada don't actually seem that democratic. Secret meetings to appoint people into quite powerful positions are normal.
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
Sadly, I think you over-estimate the real influence of the electorate on politicians.
Politicians are only there because people vote for them. I doubt there is a constituency anywhere that doesn't have independents on the ballot. The US may, I don't know.

I have yet to see a politician elected with zero votes
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Politicians are only there because people vote for them. I doubt there is a constituency anywhere that doesn't have independents on the ballot. The US may, I don't know.

I have yet to see a politician elected with zero votes
Sadly, I think you over-estimate the influence of individual politicians on policy.
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Politicians are only there because people vote for them. I doubt there is a constituency anywhere that doesn't have independents on the ballot. The US may, I don't know.

I have yet to see a politician elected with zero votes
I agree. It's only reasonable that everyone do a full audit of the government before voting so that they can know if they are behaving in a fully transparent and accountable manner. Anyone who doesn't do can't really complain if they find out that some obscure government department spends a few million in a less than efficient manner as it's entirely their own fault.
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 12:44 pm
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Yawn.......I suppose we won't have to wait too long for the next 'soap opera'...
 
Old Jan 24th 2013 | 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
I agree. It's only reasonable that everyone do a full audit of the government before voting so that they can know if they are behaving in a fully transparent and accountable manner. Anyone who doesn't do can't really complain if they find out that some obscure government department spends a few million in a less than efficient manner as it's entirely their own fault.
You are, as always, correct. The electorate is responsible for little, it's all those bastard politicians' fault. It's probably a class thing
 
Old Jan 25th 2013 | 4:22 am
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This is not a bad article http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...structure.html

Note particularly the quotes from the auditor general.

The problem is that the lives and affairs of First Nations are goverened by the Department of Indian Affairs under a century + old Indain Act, which itself is the product of British Colonialism at its worst.

However, if they get a bit uppity, it is far easier to blame the natives than do anything about it.
 
Old Jan 25th 2013 | 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
This is not a bad article http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...structure.html

Note particularly the quotes from the auditor general.

The problem is that the lives and affairs of First Nations are goverened by the Department of Indian Affairs under a century + old Indain Act, which itself is the product of British Colonialism at its worst.

However, if they get a bit uppity, it is far easier to blame the natives than do anything about it.
Pretty much!

Colonization has by and large been bad, bad, bad for indigenous people. It's been great for British immigrants though

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Old Jan 25th 2013 | 4:36 am
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
This is not a bad article http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...structure.html

Note particularly the quotes from the auditor general.

The problem is that the lives and affairs of First Nations are goverened by the Department of Indian Affairs under a century + old Indain Act, which itself is the product of British Colonialism at its worst.

However, if they get a bit uppity, it is far easier to blame the natives than do anything about it.
Do you agree with this columnist who suggests scrapping the Indian Act?
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2013/01/2...rap-indian-act
 


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