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Old Nov 2nd 2013, 10:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Oink
They should make that Rob Ford bloke the president of Canada instead of that deadbeat Harper. It would be funnier all round.
I found the CBC headline "Rob Ford Intoxicated on St Patrick's Day" beyond surreal.
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Old Nov 2nd 2013, 10:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Oink
They should make that Rob Ford bloke the president of Canada instead of that deadbeat Harper. It would be funnier all round.
Oh yes, there you have it. Canada personified.
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Old Nov 2nd 2013, 11:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Shard
I found the CBC headline "Rob Ford Intoxicated on St Patrick's Day" beyond surreal.
I'd be more concerned if he wasn't! Don't most people use St patrick's day as an excuse to drink more than usual?
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Old Nov 2nd 2013, 11:23 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
I'd be more concerned if he wasn't! Don't most people use St patrick's day as an excuse to drink more than usual?
Well, precisely.
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Old Nov 3rd 2013, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
Well, precisely.
Re the horrible Ford, if there is nothing in the crack smoking video that is prosecutable(is that a word?) Then what business is it of the police?
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Old Nov 4th 2013, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
....so who will lead the Conservative Party into the 2015 election?
If I was a betting man my money would be on Stephen Joseph Harper.
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Originally Posted by bats
Re the horrible Ford, if there is nothing in the crack smoking video that is prosecutable(is that a word?) Then what business is it of the police?
Well, if you can believe the news, which has been all over this, and the Toronto chief of police at the press conference where he explained it, it's evidence in an extortion case, related to mega-dope-bust Operation Traveller. Some questions are left unanswered because it's before the courts, but it looks like (my speculation), Ford's sometime driver and pal Sandro Lisi was trying to muscle the video out of the man who took it and tried to sell it. HTH
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Originally Posted by bats
Re the horrible Ford, if there is nothing in the crack smoking video that is prosecutable(is that a word?) Then what business is it of the police?
When I put my tinfoil hat on I can't help thinking all this news coverage is very convenient for a least one right wing political leader.
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Looks like the gentleman isn't for turning........

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/na...045/story.html
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Originally Posted by jimf
Looks like the gentleman isn't for turning........

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/na...045/story.html
I think both Harper and Ford will survive these issues, I don't think Canadian electorate cares about impropriety in politicians and I don't think the Toronto electorate cares what the Mayor does so long as he's seen to be trying to reduce taxes in the suburbs.

Still, I think this claim, in the article:

"Wright used his own money to pay the $90,000 in expenses"

is very unlikely to be the simple truth.
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I think both Harper and Ford will survive these issues, I don't think Canadian electorate cares about impropriety in politicians and I don't think the Toronto electorate cares what the Mayor does so long as he's seen to be trying to reduce taxes in the suburbs.

Still, I think this claim, in the article:

"Wright used his own money to pay the $90,000 in expenses"

is very unlikely to be the simple truth.
The Canadian electorate probably supports anyone who's seen to be trying to reduce taxes and sort out offenders in the Senate. As long as the economy is generally ok they may well get through these issues.

The business with the $90k expenses does appear somewhat clumsy whatever the truth.
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Originally Posted by jimf
The Canadian electorate probably supports anyone who's seen to be trying to reduce taxes and sort out offenders in the Senate.
I don't see the latter at all. No doubt the senators are thought to be a dodgy bunch but no more of less so than Harper; he's plainly complicit in a bit of financial malarky. I think though that that is what is expected of Canadian politicians, Harper's not more bent that Mulrooney or Chretien or, indeed, Ford. If people truly cared than the senators have sticky fingers they'd also care that the Prime Minister blurs the lines between public, party and private funds. I don't think the electorate does much care.
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I get mad at the Action Canada ads - what is the benefit of those and what do they cost? They basically say Rah Rah Government as far as I can see.
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
I think Nigel Wright may well have reached his limit of being the good soldier falling on his sword. He'll come out with the truth soon.
Sorry to quote myself. Bad form I know. But I was right again wasn't I?

Nigel Wright's lawyer has leaked part of Wright's affidavit to the RCMP (i.e. effectively under oath) stating that Gerstein was agreeable to paying Duffy's expenses back when they were estimated as $30K, and then backed off when the sum turned out to be three times as much.

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Old Nov 4th 2013, 10:56 pm
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Didn't they pay his legal costs while he was still an mp and disallow the disputed expenses? SOP. I thought that's what happened. I always thought of Wright as the bagman, Ollie North to Reagan, Sczaba to Devine, the designated goat.

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