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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9735414)
So you don't think using bulldozers on innocent people isn't a tiny bit totalitarian? Even if they are annoying crusty twats.
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by macadian
(Post 9735445)
No just their hovels...(sorry, tents)...fire hoses for the miscreants, followed by the bull dozers to clear up the mess....perhaps I should add the odd back hoe?..A tad short of snipers, death squads and machine guns don't you think? :cool:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9735475)
Fire hosing innocent people? I guess you are right; it isn't killing them so it's perfectly alright for a democracy to do this.
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Some of the occupier kids likely got to rub shoulders with real down and outers for the first time in their lives so some good may of come from it. In their zeal to teach others about the gap between rich and poor I hope they learned from the experience. I read on twitter Regina police dismantled what was left of the camp in Victoria Park about an hour ago. In 1935 the RCMP attacked a rally in market square and rode the on-to-Ottawa trekkers down with horses and billy clubs downtown and a couple of other places, bodies were quietly disposed of and order restored. They don't have horses at the training academy here now so city police had to take down the tents. Actually, I think one horse could of done it here.
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
One wonders how many if the posters on here that appear to "support" what they are doing have become involved in any way: donating food, time and effort, even spent a day/night in a tent? Doers as opposed to talkers!
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by macadian
(Post 9735445)
No just their hovels...(sorry, tents)...fire hoses for the miscreants, followed by the bull dozers to clear up the mess....perhaps I should add the odd back hoe?..A tad short of snipers, death squads and machine guns don't you think? :cool:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 9736285)
even spent a day/night in a tent? Doers as opposed to talkers!
Not that I'm a great supporter of those dewy eyed rich kids, they want to give the park back to the homeless, people who really need them benches. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 9736316)
Back tracking now are we from your original post? :sneaky:
Not at all.....they are a blight on the landscape....time to call it quits...authorities should continue as they are in using the law....and escalate enforcement of the law as required .......The more fanatical of their 'anarchistic' number may require such an escalation of force on the part of the authorities as has been shown elsewhere (Seattle)...time will tell...Fire hoses/water cannon always an option....and a good sanitation exercise of the 'great unwashed' compliments of the tax payer. I believe the authorities lost the initiative some time ago by allowing them to set up camps in the first place and subsequently remain...and as a consequence the level force required to move them now will be all the greater. This was a given, particularly as the original protest has in many cases been hijacked by the more extreme elements of society. Peaceful protest is one thing...but allowing the setting up of 'tented villages' in public parks, private property etc was a recipe for confrontation eventually.....better to have put the lid on it early doors than have to deal with it now.... Just an opinion..... Start the fire trucks, check the water tanks as required, a pretty pink dye might be appropriate........wagons roll!.....:cool: |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
All this chit-chat about the Occupy movement makes me realize that I still hate Thatcher. :thumbdown:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 9736889)
All this chit-chat about the Occupy movement makes me realize that I still hate Thatcher. :thumbdown:
And your post makes me realise the very opposite....:cool: |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 9736889)
All this chit-chat about the Occupy movement makes me realize that I still hate Thatcher. :thumbdown:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 9736989)
The Iron Lady would not have stood for all this bull shite, they would have been out of that "public" park, on their arses in 31 hours not days.
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 9736889)
All this chit-chat about the Occupy movement makes me realize that I still hate Thatcher. :thumbdown:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by London Mike
(Post 9737276)
What a god awful woman she was. Dreadful for the country.
She appeared (over beer at the Yard) to have formed the view that my revulsion at the named individual is a variant of the Godwin syndrome. ;) |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by macadian
(Post 9736445)
Ok, I'll bite........
Not at all.....they are a blight on the landscape....time to call it quits...authorities should continue as they are in using the law....and escalate enforcement of the law as required .......The more fanatical of their 'anarchistic' number may require such an escalation of force on the part of the authorities as has been shown elsewhere (Seattle)...time will tell...Fire hoses/water cannon always an option....and a good sanitation exercise of the 'great unwashed' compliments of the tax payer. I believe the authorities lost the initiative some time ago by allowing them to set up camps in the first place and subsequently remain...and as a consequence the level force required to move them now will be all the greater. This was a given, particularly as the original protest has in many cases been hijacked by the more extreme elements of society. Peaceful protest is one thing...but allowing the setting up of 'tented villages' in public parks, private property etc was a recipe for confrontation eventually.....better to have put the lid on it early doors than have to deal with it now.... Just an opinion..... Start the fire trucks, check the water tanks as required, a pretty pink dye might be appropriate........wagons roll!.....:cool: Lost in the details some can't see the big picture. The Occupy Uprising has been a huge success in showing that there is global concern for the state of our nations. Too bad there are still a bunch of 'rats' willing to toddle along to the piper's tune. I submit that this is only the beginning. Stay tuned. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by bandrui
(Post 9737367)
Public parks... private property... hmmmm.
Lost in the details some can't see the big picture. The Occupy Uprising has been a huge success in showing that there is global concern for the state of our nations. Too bad there are still a bunch of 'rats' willing to toddle along to the piper's tune. I submit that this is only the beginning. Stay tuned. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 9737375)
Do you have wi-fi in your tent? :confused:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 9737375)
Do you have wi-fi in your tent? :confused:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by bandrui
(Post 9737394)
Huh?
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by bandrui
(Post 9737394)
Huh?
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 9737403)
Do you have any more red herrings in yours?
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 9737434)
Classic ain't it? :D
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
I'm an armchair supporter - nothing wrong with agreeing with people doing something. For comparison, I don't really think killing whales is a very nice thing to do, but that doesn't mean that unless I get on a boat and follow japanese whaling ships around I'm a hypocrite.
Besides, Canadian movement aside, it's a misconception that the OWS protests in the US are somehow anti-capitalist or anti-corporation. I see the "laugh at them for being anti-corporation and then using their ipads in starbucks" meme a lot, but don't get sucked into the fox news narrative. There's a reason why they aren't protesting outside microsoft, apple, starbucks, or even macdonalds - it's because those companies haven't robbed tax-payers blind. Wall street on the other hand is full of demonstrably corrupt thieves. Edit: I do think occupy vancouver is only helping to discredit the OWS movement. They have a right to protest, but I kind of wish they'd go shut up with their idealist impractical nonsense. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9737492)
I'm an armchair supporter - nothing wrong with agreeing with people doing something. For comparison, I don't really think killing whales is a very nice thing to do, but that doesn't mean that unless I get on a boat and follow japanese whaling ships around I'm a hypocrite.
Besides, Canadian movement aside, it's a misconception that the OWS protests in the US are somehow anti-capitalist or anti-corporation. I see the "laugh at them for being anti-corporation and then using their ipads in starbucks" meme a lot, but don't get sucked into the fox news narrative. There's a reason why they aren't protesting outside microsoft, apple, starbucks, or even macdonalds - it's because those companies haven't robbed tax-payers blind. Wall street on the other hand is full of demonstrably corrupt thieves. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...-1-percent.php |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by bandrui
(Post 9737367)
Public parks... private property... hmmmm.
Lost in the details some can't see the big picture. The Occupy Uprising has been a huge success in showing that there is global concern for the state of our nations. Too bad there are still a bunch of 'rats' willing to toddle along to the piper's tune. I submit that this is only the beginning. Stay tuned. I've seen 'Inside Job' and understand that there is much wrong with our financial institutions and how they conduct business but the fact that you conclude that this is about the 'overall state of our nations' just demonstrates to me how utterly unfocused, incoherent, unrealistic and non-productive this 'protest' has been. It's a shame because the '99%' thing had promise. Problem was 24% effort. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by London Mike
(Post 9737500)
Oh look, come on, whatever anyone thinks of Occupy no-one for a second can suggest that it's been a rip-roaring success. It hasn't been at all.
I've seen 'Inside Job' and understand that there is much wrong with our financial institutions and how they conduct business but the fact that you conclude that this is about the 'overall state of our nations' just demonstrates to me how utterly unfocused, incoherent, unrealistic and non-productive this 'protest' has been. It's a shame because the '99%' thing had promise. Problem was 24% effort. I'm apparently not alone in this opinion: (Click on today's episode of Q - Nov 16 for Jian Ghomeshi's opening address and no, it's not about Kermit the frog) http://www.cbc.ca/q/episodes/ |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by bandrui
(Post 9737602)
Guess you missed the second half of the sentence "... in showing that there is global concern for the state of our nations." Agreed, it lacked something in the execution but as a show of discontent from many countries, it has a tleast caught the eye of those in power. As such, it was a success.
I'm apparently not alone in this opinion: (Click on today's episode of Q - Nov 16 for Jian Ghomeshi's opening address and no, it's not about Kermit the frog) http://www.cbc.ca/q/episodes/ Before you think I'm not sympathetic to the cause, I am. It's just that I'm disappointed with how this has all played out. I think the Occupy movement has been sadly outflanked by some of the authorities it aimed to pull down. Galling but true. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by London Mike
(Post 9737660)
How has it caught the eye of those in power, except for said people in power giving the Occupiers 31 days to make them feel like they've 'made a protest' before giving them a pat on the back and an eviction notice? Honestly, it's naiive to think that this has changed anything.
Before you think I'm not sympathetic to the cause, I am. It's just that I'm disappointed with how this has all played out. I think the Occupy movement has been sadly outflanked by some of the authorities it aimed to pull down. Galling but true. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by London Mike
(Post 9737660)
How has it caught the eye of those in power, except for said people in power giving the Occupiers 31 days to make them feel like they've 'made a protest' before giving them a pat on the back and an eviction notice? Honestly, it's naiive to think that this has changed anything.
Before you think I'm not sympathetic to the cause, I am. It's just that I'm disappointed with how this has all played out. I think the Occupy movement has been sadly outflanked by some of the authorities it aimed to pull down. Galling but true. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9737492)
I'm an armchair supporter - nothing wrong with agreeing with people doing something.
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9737492)
Edit: I do think occupy vancouver is only helping to discredit the OWS movement. They have a right to protest, but I kind of wish they'd go shut up with their idealist impractical nonsense.
Originally Posted by bandrui
(Post 9737674)
I really think you are missing the big picture.
I'm all for change in the upper echelons of the Financial sector and other corporations and business folk..........as long as it doesn't impact my current way of life ;) |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9737492)
Edit: I do think occupy vancouver is only helping to discredit the OWS movement. They have a right to protest, but I kind of wish they'd go shut up with their idealist impractical nonsense. Its all impotent bollox until there are heads on stakes. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
I lived like a 1%er tonight, eating a nice juicy rib-eye, washed down with some chocolate cake :sunglasses:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 9737857)
I lived like a 1%er tonight, eating a nice juicy rib-eye, washed down with some chocolate cake :sunglasses:
We had roast beef but my Yorkshire puddings didn't rise up. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 9737862)
We had roast beef but my Yorkshire puddings didn't rise up.
Think i'll make some over the weekend and get some treacle in to have with the leftovers |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 9737875)
Any ideas where to get Goose fat around here? My Yorkshires just don't taste the same without it.
Think i'll make some over the weekend and get some treacle in to have with the leftovers |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 9737906)
Yes, you can get goose and duck fat at Oyama Sausage place in GI market. The goose stuff sells out quick before Christmas. It's quite spendy but as you're recession proof it shouldn't be a problem. ;)
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 9738556)
Bingo :sunglasses:
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Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 9738574)
A found a cheap and effective method of obtaining goose fat was to roast a goose. hth.
Nice one. :) |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
I've got a lot of aquantainces and a few good friends who are part of the Occupy Toronto movement. I think that some of the folk have good intentions, but camping in a park, hooping and practicing poi doesn't really cut it as far as I'm concerned.
Via Facebook, I've been invited to any number of Occupy Toronto events, mostly it's fair to say organised around protecting the park and preventing their eviction. When I ask what they're specifically campaigning about, and what they propose in the place of what they don't like, I'm met with a deafening silence. Oh, and the suggestion that I come to the park to find out.... Why should I waste my time visiting a ton of sketched out hippies who are unable to articulate what they want; other than they think that life is not fair. Personally I figured that out early on. I'm developing a distinct dislike of the protest in general, as to me it smacks of the kind of entitlement and expectations that a lot of people seem to have these days. To make positive changes you need to do a little bit more than sitting on your arse in a park for a few months. I've actively demonstrated against things that I felt strongly in the past. None of those demonstrations included promoting the use of illegal drugs, anti social behaviour or not needing to engage in debate with people that you need to influence.If I sound angry, I am, because these work shy fops have put the cause of social equality back several years as far as I'm concerned. |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by Pretty Flowers
(Post 9738704)
I've got a lot of aquantainces and a few good friends who are part of the Occupy Toronto movement. I think that some of the folk have good intentions, but camping in a park, hooping and practicing poi doesn't really cut it as far as I'm concerned.
Via Facebook, I've been invited to any number of Occupy Toronto events, mostly it's fair to say organised around protecting the park and preventing their eviction. When I ask what they're specifically campaigning about, and what they propose in the place of what they don't like, I'm met with a deafening silence. Oh, and the suggestion that I come to the park to find out.... Why should I waste my time visiting a ton of sketched out hippies who are unable to articulate what they want; other than they think that life is not fair. Personally I figured that out early on. I'm developing a distinct dislike of the protest in general, as to me it smacks of the kind of entitlement and expectations that a lot of people seem to have these days. To make positive changes you need to do a little bit more than sitting on your arse in a park for a few months. I've actively demonstrated against things that I felt strongly in the past. None of those demonstrations included promoting the use of illegal drugs, anti social behaviour or not needing to engage in debate with people that you need to influence.If I sound angry, I am, because these work shy fops have put the cause of social equality back several years as far as I'm concerned. Post of the week IMO. :goodpost: |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
Originally Posted by magnumpi
(Post 9738833)
Well said.
Post of the week IMO. :goodpost: |
Re: The Occupy Uprising....
This time of year the big Canada Geese, (at least the ones out here), have a lump of pure white fat in the abdomen nearly the size of a tennis ball. Ask your friends to save them when they clean geese. Rendered down it's great for making shortbread.
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