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What a load of tosh most of those demands are. They're more a manefesto for economic destruction than anything that has any base in reality.

I especially like the request for 1% interest rates and that the minimum wage should be a living wage. What does that mean exactly, that everyone should be able to afford a wii?

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Some more rioting would be funny.

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Everyone should be able to afford an Ipad (un-environmentally sound product made by overworked chinese workers and sold by an evil corporation), so that they can update the google doc (hosted by a corporation, who although their corporate motto is 'don't be evil' clearly are by virtue of being a corporation. QED, etc) whilst stealing the free wifi signal from Starbucks. (evil corporation, environmentally unsustainable etc etc.)

You get the picture. Corporations bad. Capitalism bad. All of it. ;)

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That does seem to be the Canadian version. Pity.

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One thing that always interests me about these types of "live-in protests".

How do the tent dwelling participants survive financially?

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I understand. Everything is bad, especially because I have responsibilities that I don't want to face, like doing the best to provide for myself and my family. I'd much rather sponge of other people who do work hard.

Such an example lives in my basement at the moment.

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EI? Student loans? beg? Vagrancy? Mum & Dad? Work....(sorry, that's just silly), None of the foregoing? :cool:

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All joking aside it is. The OWS protests tap into a justified rage against the failings of the global financial system, fatcat bankers etc etc. The Occupy Vancouver manifesto is just a collection of idiotic demands that devalues the whole thing.

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The people that really are sponging off you are not at these protests.

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Yes, I agree. Occupy Vancouver is just a bunch of hippies playing at being right on.

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Corporations are routinely shut down by the government for various crimes.

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Their time would be better spent motivating consumers to say no to the banks, oil companies, insurance companies, cut back on what we spend. Prices going up when commodities are coming down, when individually we have little of no influence on what we pay for fuel and banking services, the outrageous interest charged by credit card companies (some 20 -30%), hitting mostly those that can least afford it and are financially less adept at knowing how to use debt.

Some of the movement current demands as warm and fuzzy as they are, are going impact consumers in the end. Hit the businesses where it hurts most and reduce our consumption of their products. Bank local, use credit unions who put back into the community.

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I'm sure that's the case, but it's the sentiment that I agree with. No bankers are in jail and no bank has been wound up because of fraud, yet they all get to make campaign "contributions" through PAC's and what not because of that citizens united ruling saying that they had a right to free speech.

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Given the unabashed hypocrisy, privilege and callousness of the corporate banking system and the immunity from responibility provided by discredited governments, its quite pleasing to see some outbreaks of direct democracy and direct action, even if it lacks any concrete ideological principles. The problem I see is the lack of focus makes it vulnerable to be discredited by reactionary media and the pathologically ambivalent.


Edited to note, the Metropolitan Police have issued baton rounds which are like rubber bullets. That should escalate the situation nicely.

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Goodness me! I agree with you. I'll try to do better. :)

But to be honest, the significance of the various Occupy groups in Canada to the global Occupy movement is comparable to that of all things Canadian these days to all things global.

Zilch.

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You might get your wish. It won't be as good as the Stanley Cup riot, but then people care about the Stanley Cup.

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I feel I should be sympathetic to the plight of the Occupy protesters on the one hand, but on the other I agree with Oink that (in Canada at least) it's completely without focus. The demands are basically pointless. "the dismantling of western economic practices (aka capitalism)" as someone said this morning on CBC. Crap. The last I heard Al Qaeda were making similar demands about western values. How much progress have they made, and they're using bombs not tents.

Meanwhile, the Toronto posse are so pathetic they can't even be bothered to protest on Bay St, occupying the more comfortable St James's park instead. A bigger bunch of Starbucks drinking knit your own muesli crowd you'll struggle to find anywhere else...

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I drove past the Vancouver scrubbers today. Sitting at the lights next to them i noticed somebody had obviously done a food run to McDonalds :thumbup:

Made me smile.

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Another happy camper taken to a Toronto hospital with a drug related injury this evening. :ohmy:

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Local reporting on the Occupy St John's protest (a modest affair compared to elsewhere) noted that the tent dwellers are being funded, at least in terms of food, by the Fish, Food & Allied Workers Union & other labour movements. The city of St. John's has also provided a bog. Which is nice.

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We're now living in a tent. I wonder if we could call it a protest and attract sponsorship from Fuller Smith and Turner, The Independent Cider Makers Association and/or The Canadian Union of Korma Makers.

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With 11/11/11 fast approaching

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Don't forget Sleeman too in your neck of the woods ;)

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Sleeman? I can't take the car to the protest, nevermind wash it.

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The Brewery in guelph

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Did ya hear the "Whhhhhooooooooooooooossssssshhhhhh" as that one went over:rolleyes:

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Hackers laying down the gauntlet

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...e.html?cmp=rss

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My OH step brother has been working at Occupy Victoria in the kitchen that they've got set up there, he said that the whole occupy thing has become a joke that not even the protesters believe in. He was saying how the camp had become a small parody of the real world, in that most there were unemployed, drug users, homeless, and a small portion of them are employed and also doing all the work on the camp. They've also built some sort of wall around the kitchen and food tents because others kept stealing from there. My OH made the point that that is also similar to the real world, where the 1% have protected the wealth in the camp, and that maybe that's the way the world has to work for society to function. I think he's given up now! lol

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Fire hoses and bulldozers....end of!

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So how does that make it any better than place like Syria then if you go down that route?

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The water will be consumable and may even clean the dirty buggaz

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Wish I had thought of that....:thumbsup:

Seriously, 'Ultrarunner' comparing Syria and the wholesale slaughter going on there with this lot who currently are little more than a pain in the arse making the place(s) look untidy, is somewhat ludicrous....

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They gota be out by mid night. Bye bye
:thumbsup:

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You are Bashar al-Assad, and i claim my £5

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Whatever. ?

31 days in a public park and only now they get notice to leave.

Well, we should all have the same rights as the squatters. If i park on a no parking zone, the city should give me 31 days to move my car. Equal rights for all.

Yip yip yippaa ;)

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I think you missed my point ;)

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You were out to lunch with that one.....I compared the method suggested to what is happening in Syria. Get it?

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And I don't see the comparison...get it?

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So you don't think using bulldozers on innocent people isn't a tiny bit totalitarian? Even if they are annoying crusty twats.

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Innocent intelligent people it seems. In Toronto they've got a court injunction preventing eviction (or at least postponing it). I believe the Vancouver group are trying the same.