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Old Aug 9th 2011 | 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
If it was that easy, or do-able, everyone would do it.
It is that easy, it is that do-able. Most aren't prepared to, preferring to knock those that have as fat cats.

I have absolutely no respect for those that complain, yet do nothing - about anything!
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
However, the governments role should be to ensure that things are fair for everyone - everyone has equal opportunity etc. It cannot control what other governments do however - which is why they should tax the things that represent unfair imbalances in the market.
That's a very strange stance for one that complains about liquor laws in BC to adopt
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
That's a very strange stance for one that complains about liquor laws in BC to adopt
No it isn't. It's exactly the stance somebody who complains about BC liquor laws would adopt.

You have two companies producing widgets:
Company A in Canada produces them for cost $100
Company B in the US produces them for $90, because it pays it's staff less or has a more efficient process.

Fair enough. Company B sells more widgets and/or makes more profit.

But if you have:
Company A in Canada produces them for cost $100
Company B in the US produces them for $110, but receives a subsidy from the government at $20/widget to bring the net cost to $90

Unfair. Company B is more profitable because it's being propped up by US taxpayers. Company B's widgets that are imported into Canada should be taxed at least $20 per widget.
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
No it isn't. It's exactly the stance somebody who complains about BC liquor laws would adopt.

You have two companies producing widgets:
Company A in Canada produces them for cost $100
Company B in the US produces them for $90, because it pays it's staff less or has a more efficient process.

Fair enough. Company B sells more widgets and/or makes more profit.

But if you have:
Company A in Canada produces them for cost $100
Company B in the US produces them for $110, but receives a subsidy from the government at $20/widget to bring the net cost to $90

Unfair. Company B is more profitable because it's being propped up by US taxpayers. Company B's widgets that are imported into Canada should be taxed at least $20 per widget.
Widgets are subsidy exempt
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
No it isn't. It's exactly the stance somebody who complains about BC liquor laws would adopt.

You have two companies producing widgets:
Company A in Canada produces them for cost $100
Company B in the US produces them for $90, because it pays it's staff less or has a more efficient process.

Fair enough. Company B sells more widgets and/or makes more profit.

But if you have:
Company A in Canada produces them for cost $100
Company B in the US produces them for $110, but receives a subsidy from the government at $20/widget to bring the net cost to $90

Unfair. Company B is more profitable because it's being propped up by US taxpayers. Company B's widgets that are imported into Canada should be taxed at least $20 per widget.
I thought we were talking lower hourly rates.

I defer to your greater expertise
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I defer to your greater expertise
Now you are just taking the piss
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by Keith
I left school at the age of 14 in 1944 and there were jobs of all descriptions for young people plus at the age of 18 you had to spend 2 years in the military.
I seem to recall that a man called Adolph had created a lot of jobs for British workers around that time.
 
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Finally the Thatcher legacy comes home to roost. Everyone who ever voted Tory is paying the price.

London's burning with boredom now.

Poverty and disparity is a dangerous thing. Just a matter of time til it comes to Canada, especially under people like Harper, Hudak and Ford.
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by lmartin999
Finally the Thatcher legacy comes home to roost. Everyone who ever voted Tory is paying the price.

London's burning with boredom now.

Poverty and disparity is a dangerous thing. Just a matter of time til it comes to Canada, especially under people like Harper, Hudak and Ford.

Even my Canadian girlfriend noticed that the politicians, police administrators and reporters don't look or sound like the protesters.
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by Oink
Even my Canadian girlfriend noticed that the politicians, police administrators and reporters don't look or sound like the protesters.
Give them Maggie and Cameron. This is the arab spring of the UK.

Oh, Boris too and the rest of the Bullingdon Club...

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Old Aug 9th 2011 | 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by lmartin999
Finally the Thatcher legacy comes home to roost. Everyone who ever voted Tory is paying the price.

London's burning with boredom now.

Poverty and disparity is a dangerous thing. Just a matter of time til it comes to Canada, especially under people like Harper, Hudak and Ford.
I trust you are more objective in your academic life than you are on this board. I thought that there were 13 or so years of Labour between the personalities you mention. What about those years or do you simply ignore facts that don't support your theories? University of East Anglia and all that
 
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I trust you are more objective in your academic life than you are on this board. I thought that there were 13 or so years of Labour between the personalities you mention. What about those years or do you simply ignore facts that don't support your theories? University of East Anglia and all that
I don't think the 13 years of Labour improved things, but the blame still lies with Thatcher.

I don't understand the notion of objectivity. my research is unapolegtically subjective.
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I trust you are more objective in your academic life than you are on this board. I thought that there were 13 or so years of Labour between the personalities you mention. What about those years or do you simply ignore facts that don't support your theories? University of East Anglia and all that
Every Prime Minister of the UK since WW2 with the exception of Callaghan and Major were Oxbridge educated. Not terribly representative of the wider populace.
 
Old Aug 9th 2011 | 10:35 am
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How does the blame lie with the conservatives? Every time they have been in power they (eventually) reduce unemployment. When Major left office the country's economy was in the best shape it had been in for decades, a fact which Brown tried to claim credit for. Then Labour came in, sold off the gold reserves for nothing, spent and spent without restraint, pouring huge amounts of this money into welfare, breaking the economy in the process and created a disgustingly unambitious benefit scrounging generation that since the beginning has created nothing but misery for respectable citizens who are trying to make a living. These riots are just that corrosive culture taken to a new height, the occasional band of chavs you saw on the street are now one giant angry gang with nothing better to do then smash shops and steal plasma TVs.
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
Every Prime Minister of the UK since WW2 with the exception of Callaghan and Major were Oxbridge educated. Not terribly representative of the wider populace.
Brown?

Not that there is anything wrong with being Oxbridge educated, just don't be a twat if you are.
 


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