It's cold... brrrrrrr
Jan 4th 2014, 10:24 pm
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Jan 4th 2014, 10:27 pm
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Jan 4th 2014, 10:29 pm
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Jan 4th 2014, 11:00 pm
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I wonder if there isn't something about the salt air that actually makes the ice slicker in Vanvouver? I've seen cars sliding backwards down the hill smacking into each other during one of the bad snow storms I've been pleased to witness there.
Jan 5th 2014, 1:48 am
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Jan 5th 2014, 6:28 am
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I'll put money on Summer tires.
Jan 5th 2014, 9:17 am
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Very possible, its silly really to spend all that money on winter tires for a handful of days each year where it might be snowy or icy, its not the norm in the lower mainland where most people live. Plus where to store the stupid tires in the summer for all the apartment and condo dwellers?
We just stay in on the few days it does snow...
Its only snowed once so far this winter, and there has been a whopping 4 days where they even felt the need to salt, but there was little if any actual ice on the road. (where I am about an hour from Vancouver.)
We just stay in on the few days it does snow...
Its only snowed once so far this winter, and there has been a whopping 4 days where they even felt the need to salt, but there was little if any actual ice on the road. (where I am about an hour from Vancouver.)
Jan 5th 2014, 11:44 am
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At what temperature does the rubber on all-season radials become hard and lose traction, -7C? Unless you can afford the new generation of true 'year round' tires I'd question having snow tires in Vancouver. Conventional snow tires will wear out rapidly if used in a warm climate and offer little advantage over good all-season radials. They will actually cause poor steering and driving characteristics when used in warm weather. Go to where it's below -10 all winter and the difference is marked. I think the difference in the ice is due to something atmospheric; we'll get polished stretches on the highway here, but it doesn't seem as bad as that 'black ice'. Maybe one of our truck drivers has the answer.
Currently -33 in Regina, cold as part of a witch.
Currently -33 in Regina, cold as part of a witch.
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Jan 5th 2014, 12:16 pm
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More like they start to lose it around plus 7 degrees......
Technically, the difference between the two tire types boils down to the tread pattern, its compound and the siping (the zigzag knife-like cuts in the tread blocks). The compound dictates the point at which the rubber turns from something able to grip the road to a near-useless black ring. At 7C, the all-season's harder compound - needed to provide the required driving life - begins to lose traction. At the same temperature, a winter tire is just beginning to get comfortable. At -7C, the all-season has become so hard it slides like a puck on ice. Conversely, the more pliable winter tire is in its element.
Winter tires are made of a rubber that maintains its elasticity in much colder temperatures than other tires. They'll stay soft down to -40 C, while summer tires and all-season radials begin to harden and lose traction at around 7 C.
Living in Vancouver, Lower Mainland, or the south part of Vancouver Island,
you can get away with all seasons in winter, because it rarely goes below -7C.
The days it snows will be extra dangerous, not due to your tires, but because of all the idiots who forget how to drive as soon as they cross the Rockies. Or the Pacific.
Or they think because it isn't snowing, summer tires are still ok.
The rest of the country, imo, forget it.
Anyone who uses all season tires in winter is playing with fire, and needs to
be extremely careful.
Jan 5th 2014, 1:23 pm
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I suppose even if you live in Van but go exploring on weekends you may want them. When you turn onto the #3 heading East it goes from people playing golf beside the highway to snow piled 10' high in Manning Park in a big hurry.
Edit: Coming in on the bus once during a freak snowstorm I tried to count all the cars in the ditch in the LM but there were so many I started just counting the ones with all 4 wheels in the air. I think it was 40 something.
Currently -35 in Regina; cold as part of a well digger.
Edit: Currently -37 in Regina; cold as part of a brass monkey.
Edit: Coming in on the bus once during a freak snowstorm I tried to count all the cars in the ditch in the LM but there were so many I started just counting the ones with all 4 wheels in the air. I think it was 40 something.
Currently -35 in Regina; cold as part of a well digger.
Edit: Currently -37 in Regina; cold as part of a brass monkey.
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Jan 5th 2014, 2:56 pm
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ABS plays a big part in stopping too, not so much with handling though
Jan 5th 2014, 3:23 pm
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A balmy 3C here. 
Jan 5th 2014, 4:14 pm
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