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Its obvious that the Scots have read over the white paper on their Independence and what it means to them as contained in this link



I highly doubt that any voter who is eligible to vote has not read this and that these situations of companies pulling out of Scotland etc etc are all answered.
The Scots are well educated people and surely wouldn't vote on something so important without having read the information available to them :homy:
http://www.scotreferendum.com/report...dent-scotland/

This link contains a Q & A to over 650 questions asked about Scottish Independence. Have fun reading though Im sure all eligible voters have already read them
and fully understand the answers given
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2013/11/9348/15

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That's just lovely or should I say peachy :blink:

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It's the end of the world as we know it..!! (Maybe not )
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archiv...endence-shock/

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**** You see this is my point....Out of Interest I had already read through these links
before.

I didnt find much, or any prominant points relevant to that Issue.
I watch various UK documentaries and try to keep upto date on the written media and never found a forum even partly deducated to or including debate and discussion of Companies pulling out of Scotland.Pieces of paper are not debate.

Look I dont believe there is going to be any implosion.It would be interesting to
see which companies have opened the doors for any discussion on the subject.
Which Company's CEO might want to play devils advocate, or let something indiscretely out under the carpet, or even show thst they care.Thats not to find in the
White Papers.

Like all 'White Papers' there are some grey areas, but those Qs +As are for the Scots
to ask and digest.I am sitting on the side and watching maybe a defining moment
in UK and European History.

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Like all 'White Papers' there are some grey areas, but those Qs +As are for the Scots
to ask and digest.I am sitting on the side and watching maybe a defining moment
in UK and European History.

Well those Q & As have to be for the Scots as they are the ones that want to separate :lol:
In 202 days they will have the chance to have their say. The rest of the UK don't get to vote so its their decision. If it works out for them well good for them and if it doesn't well tough shit and they will suffer the consequences. If after the vote companies pull out and Westminster turns it back on them well so be it and if they start bitching about well we were never told this or that then why the **** did you vote YES.
I dont hate the Scots and if they choose to go their own way then who am I to stop them.

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very well put

you echo my sentiments

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You want to learn all the pros and cons..
http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk...ntation-video/

Remember most of what people outside Scotland see is Via BBC news feeds,
that are closely monitored by Whitehall..!

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Are all The Latter Day Celts so paranoid?

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Unfortunately the quality of debate is spoiled on both sides, by MacGlashan-style paranoid Nats on the one hand, and by Daily Mail-style scaremongering on the other (e.g. the DM ran a story about Scotland not being able to go into the Eurovision Song contest).

I don't think Celt-ishness has anything to do with the debate though.

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Because of my above quote, is the reason , why I would like to see debates and discussion on Various Companies thoughts on Independence.

BBc is not the only channel that broadcasts today , also Scottish, Irish, English have programs available/receivable world wide.So they dont hog the News or debate channels, and because of my last sentence in my previous post, is why this topic would have Interested me and I presume many more.This thread being a good base showing how far and wide Scottish Independence Issue has grabbed peoples interest.

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I think you are forgetting the Scottish Government's White Paper which has the plans for scottish business and attracting investment to Scotland,which was published Nov. 2013,three months ago and no business has said they will definitely leave after independence.The only concern for business that I can see is the currency issue .At the SNP have a white paper,what have the NO campaign got? No you cant do it!

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Yep they tried it before at 1997 Devo .

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You are aware, presumably, of what a "white paper" actually is? It's nothing more than a report, or a positioning document setting out the thoughts of an individual or government entity on a particular topic. They may be a precursor to legislation at some unspecified future point, but the way you keep referring to this White Paper as though it were some kind of magical almanac is a little bemusing.

The biggest problem with the Scottish Government's White Paper, which I have read, is that it is based on a whole slew of unsupportable assumptions about decisions of rUK institutions including the Westminster parliament, the Bank of England, all sorts of regulatory bodies and agencies of central Government, which (after a vote for independence) will have a mandate to seek the best possible solution for rUK, even if that comes at the expense of a good solution for Scotland.

The best example is the debate over a currency union. It is pretty clear that a formal currency union would be good for Scotland; it is also pretty clear that the benefits for rUK are marginal at best and significantly negative at worst. Where's the incentive for the Treasury or the Bank of England to agree to Scotland's requests?

Much the same with defence (a whole slew of assumptions about NATO, mutual protection from rUK, etc etc), EU membership (assumptions about grandfathered-in accession without consultation with the Commission), business (bold statements unsupported by evidence, largely dependent on the currency position), and a whole load more.

And some alarming naivete over things like policing and security (in chapter 7 of the white paper): pretty much every major Western country has a very carefully drawn separation between surveillance/counterespionage vs policing/law enforcement; the Scottish white paper suggests that a single agency will oversee both security and intelligence. If I were a Scot, I would be very worried about the implications for privacy, security, and the preservation of individual rights and freedoms that are implied by such a suggestion.

The No campaign doesn't need any "evidence". The No campaign will maintain the status quo, that is it's purpose. The burden of proof is wholly on the pro-independence advocates to convince people that they are not just pie-in-the-sky idealists - so far I don't believe they have done anything close to a good job on that.

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:goodpost:

This is one of the reasons why I said I am confused, until now I neither have
seen or heard any fundamental debate or discussions on any major topic or issue, that if I was a Scotsman I would expect to be confronted.
It seems everybody as spoken to his mates had discussion in the pubs, and that is said as taken.
The White Paper is a non descisional piece of Bark, with opinions and possibilties, from thoughts of individuals, that have been proposed.There are statements mentioning what certain directives will be followed, but no butter on the fish, no substance to any Promises, nothing that one could really define.

I dont have to play the grumpy old man, the choice isnt mine.

To all my Brit counterparts who are Scottish or live in Scotland and will vote....
Collect the topics a n d information that is important to you, and you prioritise as an individual, and put this question in front of them all....'what if..' , then go and see if you can find any concrete answer, that isnt tied, with maybes and probables.

For the 'yeses' this is your chance to realise something that you hope and wish for,
Enabling you to choose your Indepenendant future.
Be careful that one yoke isnt being traded for another, be careful what you wish for.
Are you sure your major views and fears on topics, that promises and ideas will be translated into facts.

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Im a wee bit bemused you asked if I knew what a white paper is!Maybe because Im a scot Im too stupid to understand it .Its not just a report or a positioning document as you say but the Scotttish Governments plan for independence!Of course its not written in stone ,nothing is and they will have problems ,thats what change brings.At the very least they HAVE a white paper whereas the Better Together mob have zero and its no use Cameron saying "we love you,dont leave,we have been a family for 300yrs ,lets be a family for 300 more".It just doesnt work ,particulary for young scots.As for Darling ,he signed up for the illegal Iraq war and thats one of the main reasons for independence,no more illegal wars.
Why have the SNP been so successful? Why have they gone from a 1 seat majority in 2007 to a landslide victory in 2011?Because they have delivered on their promises.They do things differently ,some call it radical,some call it pie in the sky,but you cant argue with their track record.
As for the currency union,the BoE said they will work with both governments to make it ,in other words ,it is workable,it has been done before.