Originally Posted by Auld Yin (Post 8777343)

In what ways are Canadians' collective tongues in the backside of America? What is it we say and do that makes you state that?

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 8777356)

I'll take a stab ;)

When we get together with cradle friends, with few exceptions, the discussion turns to The US and What Crazy Thing They're Doing Now. You know what? I don't care. I'm actually more interested in the country I"m living in. Like, maybe we could talk about polygamy and whether it being illegal is against the Charter of Rights and Freedoms? And what it could mean if it's found that it should be legal? Why can't we talk about stuff that's relevant to Canada?

Because Harper is turning Canada into America-Lite. The US is our neighbour and biggest trading partner, and pretty much anything that happens in the US will probably happen here within 5 years unless we've already improved it.

Polygamy in my opinion should stay illegal in Canada. If you allow polygamy to become legal, where do you draw the line? Honour killings, Sharia Law, Forced marriages?

And then's there's the other two favoured topics: US Health Care and how Canada is BEtter (as if the US is the only yardstick for health care, FFS) and How Everyone Secretly Wishes they could move to the US because it's Mysteriously Better. (though no one can explain to me exactly how or why that's so. And again, is the US the ONLY FREAKING COUNTRY one can move to? FFS)

Stephen Harper isn't Prime Minister there :p

I once brought a conversation to a halt by stating I had no desire to move there, didn't ever want to, thought Canada was just fine, can we move on please? This was because it turned I can apply for some green card lottery thingie and the cradles were all slavering at the teeth and saying I should do it. It was if it had never occurred to them that Canada was a decent place on it's own.
Agreed


My impression is a lot of cradles feel insecure about Canada and Canadian values. Hence all the comparison, while at the same time they don't feel like they can take themselves seriously until they've lived in the US, or something.

And then there's the ones who are convinced the US would invade if given half the chance.

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 8777360)

They also said on the radio, that the US building companies and suppliers would most probably refuse to build or supply building materials for this Mosque anyhow, even if they did proceed to build it.

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 8777419)

I agree, though I think the media and Stephen Harper do a lot to help this.

I believe the US would invade they thought it was in their best interests. Then we'd all be in Gitmo prison for defending our homes, charged with terrorism offenses!

Someone will supply the materials and labour. At the end of the day, someone wants a pay cheque.

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8776315)

Is Obama right to allow "freedom" to surpass emotional reactions, considering the fresh history of the site?

Is the risk of backlash, outrage, and potential violence on the structure and users worth it?

Does anybody outside of the US really give a shit?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10973459

Originally Posted by SDDep (Post 8777561)

I hate to point this out...he may be the president..but he isnt "God" excuse the pun..

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8777617)

I do appreciate it. Can you imagine the 1st black god though? Now THAT would show the world how far the land of the *cough*free*cough* has progressed. :)

Originally Posted by Kirsty John and Dominic (Post 8777901)

No they should not allow this to happen.It should not be allowed in the places they have already built them.

Originally Posted by TLR (Post 8777907)

... illogical thinking in action.

Originally Posted by Kirsty John and Dominic (Post 8777923)

At the end of they day its about respect, for those who lost their lives and put their life at risk on 9/11.

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 8777949)

People die, or risk their lives for others, every day. Yes, a lot of people died on 9/11 but I don't necessarily respect those dead anymore than I respect every other dead person in the world. Shit happens all over the world, and it usually happens to the nicest people.

I support our troops even though I don't agree with where they are, and I certainly don't think they're anymore heroes than any other profession who dies doing their job when it's a known occupational risk. Soldiers get shot at, fireman have to go into flaming buildings to rescue people, police go into the worst neighbourhoods to fight crime, and EMS could catch any one of 100's of diseases from their patients. These people know the risks they face, and I thank them for it.

Originally Posted by Kirsty John and Dominic (Post 8777968)

You sound very blasé about the thousands of innocent who lost their lives on that day that were on the plane and working in the towers at the time of the attack. Women, Children and men who had nothing to do with the terrorist act but were there through misfortune.

I have the utmost respect for those who put their lives at risk every day for each and every one of us they chose that for their profession. 9/11 however is a very different situation that is far from the norm of "a high risk profession."