gays not welcomed
Nov 27th 2013 | 11:27 am
#46
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Re: gays not welcomed
Its a difficult theme aint it, and I admit my limitations and confusion on this,
I am what people say straight...have gay friends, over the years defended
Their corner, worked in a part gay pub.That was many years ago.
Couldnt go down that avenue myself.
Hotel is opens its door to trade with the public, by law they cant pick and choose,
but Yes I still have my qualms..for instance I couldwatch a man and women kiss
In public, and pubs, walk by two gays kissing in the park, no thought,
Be in a hotel lounge relaxing with family, No I still wouldnt like to see 2 gays
Kiss and cuddle...2 gay politicians
I am what people say straight...have gay friends, over the years defended
Their corner, worked in a part gay pub.That was many years ago.
Couldnt go down that avenue myself.
Hotel is opens its door to trade with the public, by law they cant pick and choose,
but Yes I still have my qualms..for instance I couldwatch a man and women kiss
In public, and pubs, walk by two gays kissing in the park, no thought,
Be in a hotel lounge relaxing with family, No I still wouldnt like to see 2 gays
Kiss and cuddle...2 gay politicians
Nov 27th 2013 | 11:31 am
#47
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Re: gays not welcomed
Its a difficult theme aint it, and I admit my limitations and confusion on this,
I am what people say straight...have gay friends, over the years defended
Their corner, worked in a part gay pub.That was many years ago.
Couldnt go down that avenue myself.
Hotel is opens its door to trade with the public, by law they cant pick and choose,
but Yes I still have my qualms..for instance I couldwatch a man and women kiss
In public, and pubs, walk by two gays kissing in the park, no thought,
Be in a hotel lounge relaxing with family, No I still wouldnt like to see 2 gays
Kiss and cuddle...2 gay politicians
I am what people say straight...have gay friends, over the years defended
Their corner, worked in a part gay pub.That was many years ago.
Couldnt go down that avenue myself.
Hotel is opens its door to trade with the public, by law they cant pick and choose,
but Yes I still have my qualms..for instance I couldwatch a man and women kiss
In public, and pubs, walk by two gays kissing in the park, no thought,
Be in a hotel lounge relaxing with family, No I still wouldnt like to see 2 gays
Kiss and cuddle...2 gay politicians
Nov 27th 2013 | 11:34 am
#48
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Joined: Nov 2013
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From: Woellstein, Germany
Re: gays not welcomed
Didnt finish my last post...
I wanted to finish, 2 gay politicians kissing in public..no dont like it,
Is that me..or the gay fraternity expecting too much, I really have my problems,
But I wont be made to feel guilty, I am still an hard headed hertrosexual.
Life must go on and tha t goes on one way....but my god without wanting to be patronising, I would jump in the trench to protect any gays right..
.what does that make me.....????
I wanted to finish, 2 gay politicians kissing in public..no dont like it,
Is that me..or the gay fraternity expecting too much, I really have my problems,
But I wont be made to feel guilty, I am still an hard headed hertrosexual.
Life must go on and tha t goes on one way....but my god without wanting to be patronising, I would jump in the trench to protect any gays right..
.what does that make me.....????
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:00 pm
#50
seenbeendonenocriesnowhys
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From: Woellstein, Germany
Re: gays not welcomed
Naa Ive lost ut with my fish n chips in another thread, I woner if there are gay fish
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:13 pm
#51
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Re: gays not welcomed
Didnt finish my last post...
I wanted to finish, 2 gay politicians kissing in public..no dont like it,
Is that me..or the gay fraternity expecting too much, I really have my problems,
But I wont be made to feel guilty, I am still an hard headed hertrosexual.
Life must go on and tha t goes on one way....but my god without wanting to be patronising, I would jump in the trench to protect any gays right..
.what does that make me.....????
I wanted to finish, 2 gay politicians kissing in public..no dont like it,
Is that me..or the gay fraternity expecting too much, I really have my problems,
But I wont be made to feel guilty, I am still an hard headed hertrosexual.
Life must go on and tha t goes on one way....but my god without wanting to be patronising, I would jump in the trench to protect any gays right..
.what does that make me.....????
No I still wouldnt like to see 2 gays
Kiss and cuddle...2 gay politicians
Kiss and cuddle...2 gay politicians
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:18 pm
#52
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Re: gays not welcomed
Just curious...of all the races, why did you pick Black? How about Oriental, Asian, Amazonian et al
It's all relative
Montreal Mike.....you said this "i see the point but it is their hotel after all isn't it?". Am guessing you have kids, brothers and sisters? If what you are saying is, and am assuming here? That in this day and age bigotry has a place?
What would you do if you son/daughter/brother/sister starts dating or marries someone that looks different?
It's all relative
Montreal Mike.....you said this "i see the point but it is their hotel after all isn't it?". Am guessing you have kids, brothers and sisters? If what you are saying is, and am assuming here? That in this day and age bigotry has a place?
What would you do if you son/daughter/brother/sister starts dating or marries someone that looks different?
I am merely being the devil's advocate and am simply asking myself why the rights and wishes and beliefs of the owners of the hotel are of no consequence whereas the rights of the homosexual couple are paramount?
After all, the homosexuals are free go elsewhere
It boils down to the state intervening and deciding which rights shall prevail: Individual Rights or Collective Rights
That is the only point I am raising.
PS. some landlords will refuse rentals to pet owners and smokers. Is this discrimination? I think not. If I am not wanted I can go find a landlord who will accept pets and smokers
Last edited by montreal mike; Nov 27th 2013 at 12:31 pm.
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:25 pm
#53
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Re: gays not welcomed
Homosexuals are fine. They have been around for thousands of years and are part of the human condition. So it is not a matter of being anti-homosexual.
I am merely being the devil's advocate and am simply asking myself why the rights and wishes and beliefs of the owners of the hotel are of no consequence whereas the rights of the homosexual couple are paramount?
After all, the homosexuals are free go elsewhere
It boils down to the state intervening and deciding which rights shall prevail: Individual Rights or Collective Rights
That is the only point I am raising.
PS. some landlords will refuse rentals to pet owners and smokers. Is this discrimination?
I am merely being the devil's advocate and am simply asking myself why the rights and wishes and beliefs of the owners of the hotel are of no consequence whereas the rights of the homosexual couple are paramount?
After all, the homosexuals are free go elsewhere
It boils down to the state intervening and deciding which rights shall prevail: Individual Rights or Collective Rights
That is the only point I am raising.
PS. some landlords will refuse rentals to pet owners and smokers. Is this discrimination?
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:27 pm
#54
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From: Durham Region Extension
Re: gays not welcomed
Homosexuals are fine. They have been around for thousands of years and are part of the human condition. So it is not a matter of being anti-homosexual.
I am merely being the devil's advocate and am simply asking myself why the rights and wishes and beliefs of the owners of the hotel are of no consequence whereas the rights of the homosexual couple are paramount?
After all, the homosexuals are free go elsewhere
It boils down to the state intervening and deciding which rights shall prevail: Individual Rights or Collective Rights
That is the only point I am raising.
PS. some landlords will refuse rentals to pet owners and smokers. Is this discrimination?
I am merely being the devil's advocate and am simply asking myself why the rights and wishes and beliefs of the owners of the hotel are of no consequence whereas the rights of the homosexual couple are paramount?
After all, the homosexuals are free go elsewhere
It boils down to the state intervening and deciding which rights shall prevail: Individual Rights or Collective Rights
That is the only point I am raising.
PS. some landlords will refuse rentals to pet owners and smokers. Is this discrimination?
And some building only take "seniors" renters....Ageism perhaps.
Smoking is now illegal in most indoors places in Ontario...emphasis on most here! It could be everywhere...but I'll leave it open
To the stuff in BOLD: That is because what the hotel owners are doing is called discrimination. The town/city can easily pull their operating licence to shut them down if they aren't going to cater to everyone am sure
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:35 pm
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Re: gays not welcomed
And some building only take "seniors" renters....Ageism perhaps.
Smoking is now illegal in most indoors places in Ontario...emphasis on most here! It could be everywhere...but I'll leave it open
To the stuff in BOLD: That is because what the hotel owners are doing is called discrimination. The town/city can easily pull their operating licence to shut them down if they aren't going to cater to everyone am sure
Smoking is now illegal in most indoors places in Ontario...emphasis on most here! It could be everywhere...but I'll leave it open
To the stuff in BOLD: That is because what the hotel owners are doing is called discrimination. The town/city can easily pull their operating licence to shut them down if they aren't going to cater to everyone am sure
So are you are telling me the rights of the hotels owners do not count?
On the surface it is indeed discrimination but isn't the equation a bit lopsided?
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:37 pm
#56
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Re: gays not welcomed
Homosexuals are fine. They have been around for thousands of years and are part of the human condition. So it is not a matter of being anti-homosexual.
I am merely being the devil's advocate and am simply asking myself why the rights and wishes and beliefs of the owners of the hotel are of no consequence whereas the rights of the homosexual couple are paramount?
After all, the homosexuals are free go elsewhere
It boils down to the state intervening and deciding which rights shall prevail: Individual Rights or Collective Rights
That is the only point I am raising.
PS. some landlords will refuse rentals to pet owners and smokers. Is this discrimination?
I am merely being the devil's advocate and am simply asking myself why the rights and wishes and beliefs of the owners of the hotel are of no consequence whereas the rights of the homosexual couple are paramount?
After all, the homosexuals are free go elsewhere
It boils down to the state intervening and deciding which rights shall prevail: Individual Rights or Collective Rights
That is the only point I am raising.
PS. some landlords will refuse rentals to pet owners and smokers. Is this discrimination?
Not really the same now is it?
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:38 pm
#57
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Re: gays not welcomed
Playing devil's advocate a little here, but how can we have women only gyms? How is that not (legally speaking) discriminating towards men?
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:41 pm
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Re: gays not welcomed
Why is it lopsided? What's the problem? Do you not accept that gay people are equal to straight people ?
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:42 pm
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Re: gays not welcomed
I agree here (being a non-smoker myself and having no pets), but if not, and I were turned down on a rental, I would always go elsewhere, couldn't I?
Nov 27th 2013 | 12:43 pm
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Re: gays not welcomed
And some building only take "seniors" renters....Ageism perhaps.
Smoking is now illegal in most indoors places in Ontario...emphasis on most here! It could be everywhere...but I'll leave it open
To the stuff in BOLD: That is because what the hotel owners are doing is called discrimination. The town/city can easily pull their operating licence to shut them down if they aren't going to cater to everyone am sure
Smoking is now illegal in most indoors places in Ontario...emphasis on most here! It could be everywhere...but I'll leave it open
To the stuff in BOLD: That is because what the hotel owners are doing is called discrimination. The town/city can easily pull their operating licence to shut them down if they aren't going to cater to everyone am sure
