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Neither has Brexit. Hasn't even started. Despite May's commitments, we still can't be entirely certain of it.

And when it does "come to pass", then we can evaluate the "dire warnings". Until then, at least there's a government now.

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Although the people have spoken, has the PM done her move placing MP's in strategic jobs (to her advantage) so as its likely Parliament may end up with a 'stay in the EU' outcome?

Its a question - does anyone know if Parliament has to debate the Brexit, then its passed onto the house of Lords before or if Article 50 is triggered?

What could be the possible out, is that the UK could end up staying in the EU?

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That seems to be the view of most constitutional legal experts.

But whether it does or doesn't, the damage is done. The UK has little choice now. It really must leave, so... Put on your seat belts. It's likely to be a wild ride.

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Out of curiosity, say an election is called, and one party (doesn't matter which) runs with "we will remain in the EU" as part of their platform. If that party gets voted in, would that 'nullify' the referendum? :confused:

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In a word, yes. The referendum is not binding in the first place.

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Err, I did mention that some days ago. What happened to the riots?

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Yeh !!

British Lives Matter should get on this

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In case anyone is interested and you don't know, there is a new pop up newspaper called the New European for the 48%. They've committed to four issues. I subscribed for the online copy (GBP6 for all 4 issues). The second issues is out tomorrow I think:

Great magazines direct to your door - buyamag.co.uk

The New European Newspaper Launches For EU Referendum Remain Voters Feeling 'Sense Of Loss'

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That depends on implementation. If there is a negotiation over months (years) the inherent problems of Brexit will become more widely known and accepted. An education process. On the other hand, if the government were to flatly say, thanks for the advice but we're remaining in the EU, there would be enormous civil unrest. There are far too many people with deep convictions that the EU is the damaging the country.

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From Yes Minister writer Jonathan Lynn


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

So reminds me of this

Humphrey: We did cross swords when the Minister gave me a grilling over the estimates in the public accounts committee.
Hacker: I wouldn't say that.
Humphrey: Oh, you came up with all the questions I hoped nobody would ask.
Hacker: Well, opposition's about asking awkward questions.
Humphrey: And government is about not answering them.
Hacker: Well, you answered all mine anyway.
Humphrey: I'm glad you thought so Minister.

:nod:

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Interesting development.....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...es-it-all-mean

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Just makes the whole thing even more of a clusterf*.

In other news, though, the GBP has rebounded slightly as a result of this news... been sitting around 1.24US most of today, the highest it's been in a month.

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The question was put.. "Does the government have the power to trigger article 50 without consulting parliament?"

High Court says "No" and the government will almost certainly appeal to the UK Supreme Court.

One intriguing possibility after the appeal goes to the Supreme Court is that it's decision it may be referred upwards to the European Court for a final decision. Will anyone be happy with any ruling that they make?

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The ECJ only has jurisdiction on EU law, not UK law. In that sense, the Supreme Court is the final arbiter.

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Many thanks for that. Another brain cell bites the dust.