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Old Oct 9th 2014 | 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Now my niece, she is a math whiz and loves numbers, my sister says she is 2 grades ahead in math currently. ( she is in 4th grade)
My son is too, he's great at maths. I think he must get it from my father who is a human calculator. If I said to him what's the answer to 6578 x 4309 he'd give it to me instantly, and he's always right. (BTW Gozit, he was earning far more than $250k a year, and that was when he retired almost 20 years ago!).

It's just not something that my brain copes with, and I'm not particularly interested in it so I suspect that's a big part of the reason. I'm more of a language kind of girl, and was always far better at literacy. My daughter is the same, but she desperately wants to be a vet, so she's going to have to have a decent grasp of maths.
 
Old Oct 10th 2014 | 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by Greenhill
It's an abstract answer to a question that really deserves a concrete answer. But you get points for that because I just want to give you points for that.

Unfortunately, you lose all points for removing the quotation marks and, thus, altering the story so it suits you.

However, as this is an interview for a position as a top lawyer in a top law firm, you are immediately offered both the job as well as unlimited "candy".
Or was the basis of the question in'machine language' (Binary code ASCII), you know, the 11111 & 00000, something our young friend may have difficulty with or as this thread as it progresses.

Most lawyers (those that undergrad in Liberal Arts) typically are 'thick as bricks' when it comes to any form of Maths, with the exception of a 'Patent & Trademark' ones who went the Science/Engineering first degree route
 
Old Oct 10th 2014 | 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
It's just not something that my brain copes with, and I'm not particularly interested in it so I suspect that's a big part of the reason.
+1 +1 +1 ! This is me.
 
Old Oct 10th 2014 | 12:35 am
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Originally Posted by Gozit
+1 +1 +1 ! This is me.
me thinks you do not understand binary or critical thinking, even logic, after all if its not on your computer or phone keypad then the information in the world around you is of no consequence or of any use to you?
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
It's just not something that my brain copes with, and I'm not particularly interested in it so I suspect that's a big part of the reason.
But you do have a grasp of the basics though. Enough for basic sums and not needing to whip your calculator out every 2 seconds while candy shopping? The majority couldn't do advanced stuff in their heads I would have thought.
 
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Originally Posted by Gozit
+1 +1 +1 ! This is me.
is the answer 3 , 7, 111 or just 1?
 
Old Oct 10th 2014 | 12:39 am
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
I totally agree, but the times tables or being able to work out 14x12 in your head is very basic imo. I always struggled with maths and its my weakest area too, but I can manage to do basic sums without a calculator. Just don't ask me about Pythagoras' Theory and I'll be fine.
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I'd imagine that's more to do with being at a Catholic school than the country you're in, I'm sure most UK children at a Catholic school would also say the Catholic school is shoved down their throat. Which is kind of the point of a faith school, isn't it?!
There was a thread a while back (actually I think its still active at the mo) and apparently at C of E schools in UK they are taught more of a historical perspective of ALL religions. We aren't taught that here in catholic school.
 
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Originally Posted by Gozit
There was a thread a while back (actually I think its still active at the mo) and apparently at C of E schools in UK they are taught more of a historical perspective of ALL religions. We aren't taught that here in catholic school.
That's because probably the vast majority of state run schools originated as add ons or tributes to local churches, not that they are teaching in a Christian way, Catholic schools teach in an indoctrinated way, as per my comments on that thread, from what I've learned from my sister a couple of years ago. They're even taught science in an indoctrinated way... can you imagine the slant on RE?

You've never experienced the UK school system, there are good and not so good bits to both. Neither is exactly utopia.
 
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Originally Posted by Dashie
That's because probably the vast majority of state run schools originated as add ons or tributes to local churches, not that they are teaching in a Christian way, Catholic schools teach in an indoctrinated way, as per my comments on that thread, from what I've learned from my sister a couple of years ago. They're even taught science in an indoctrinated way... can you imagine the slant on RE?

You've never experienced the UK school system, there are good and not so good bits to both. Neither is exactly utopia.
Oh I agree with you - I was just repeating what I got out of that thread.

At least we aren't indoctrinated regarding science here... They aren't allowed to I don't think. Now if its a private catholic school than its a whole other ball game.
 
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State funded but optional. You can enroll your child but they don't lay on transportation. I think it comes under the academy category?
 
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Originally Posted by Dashie
State funded but optional. You can enroll your child but they don't lay on transportation. I think it comes under the academy category?
Yeah that's how it is in UK I think. Here in Ontario, by accepting the government's money, the catholic high schools agreed to accept the Ontario curriculum, the only exception being RE class. So they have to teach everything else as if it were a public school. They also agreed to allow anyone of any faith (or non faith) to attend the schools. There was actually a few cases where the parents took the school board to court because they weren't granting their right to have the child exempted from RE class, as is their right as per the agreement when the catholic high schools became publically funded.
 
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Originally Posted by Greenhill
You're in a job [salary: $250,000] interview at a top law firm and you're asked the following question:

A bag of "candy" and a single piece of "candy" cost $1100.00 together. The "candy" bag is exactly one thousand dollars more than the single piece of "candy".

How much does the single piece of "candy" cost?

How would you react and answer this question?
$50. I have never been asked such a question during any interview for a legal position.

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Old Oct 10th 2014 | 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by Tirytory
Doesn't it rather depend on the attitude the 15yr old takes? I don't earn anywhere near that much now or in the past and have no desire to which is good as in nursing it's never going to happen. Still the lack of earning power doesn't mean that I'm not qualified to know how maths and English skills impact on everyday life or aspects of work.

My husband does earn in excess of that, and shares the same view about how important these basic skills are.
I suspect that this 15 year old has conducted himself far better than you would have at the age of 15.

The older farts on here all know more about life than Gozit; I accept that. But how many times do you need to keep going on about it? I suggest volunteering at your husband's practice.

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Old Oct 10th 2014 | 2:14 am
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One or two I'd think.
I agree with you if the answer is in response to both of my paragraphs
 
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
I suspect that this 15 year old has conducted himself far better than you would have at the age of 15.

The older farts on here all know more about life than Gozit; I accept that.
I wouldn't want to be 15 again & yes, likely many of us 'old farts' are dinosaur thinkers.

I wonder if the mid life to old fart generation on here are up to speed with the UK secondary school standards, which according to the media would have everyone believe its deteriorated to a level that the old fart generation of primary school (11+) would have no difficulty passing (with some review) a subject from the GCSE or one of the A's or an A level.

From the drop down menu in the link below is a selection of the various UK past exam papers in almost every subject going.

AQA | Exams administration | Exams guidance | Find past papers and mark schemes

Give it a go ...

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