Education
Oct 9th 2014 | 12:29 pm
#91
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Re: Education
You're in a job [salary: $250,000] interview at a top law firm and you're asked the following question:
A bag of "candy" and a single piece of "candy" cost $1100.00 together. The "candy" bag is exactly one thousand dollars more than the single piece of "candy".
How much does the single piece of "candy" cost?
How would you react and answer this question?
A bag of "candy" and a single piece of "candy" cost $1100.00 together. The "candy" bag is exactly one thousand dollars more than the single piece of "candy".
How much does the single piece of "candy" cost?
How would you react and answer this question?
Oct 9th 2014 | 12:29 pm
#92
Muskoka, Ontario
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Re: Education
My husband does earn in excess of that, and shares the same view about how important these basic skills are.
Oct 9th 2014 | 12:46 pm
#93
Dichotomus tinker
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 6,700
From: Ontario, Canada
Re: Education
You're in a job [salary: $250,000] interview at a top law firm and you're asked the following question:
A bag of "candy" and a single piece of "candy" cost $1100.00 together. The "candy" bag is exactly one thousand dollars more than the single piece of "candy".
How much does the single piece of "candy" cost?
How would you react and answer this question?
A bag of "candy" and a single piece of "candy" cost $1100.00 together. The "candy" bag is exactly one thousand dollars more than the single piece of "candy".
How much does the single piece of "candy" cost?
How would you react and answer this question?
First reaction to the question - 'would you leave me alone for 5 minutes to think about it' (same as I would like time with my client alone)
My thought process before answering ....
if you give me the single piece of candy, I will eat it, leaving the bag of candy worth $1100.
If you give me the bag of candy & I throw it out the window lose it, misplace it whatever while you are in the washroom), leaving just the piece of candy - then it alone is worth $1100
If you tell me my response is incorrect, then we shall start legal proceedings
Oct 9th 2014 | 12:48 pm
#94
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Re: Education
Teachers hate critical thinking here. Anything that isn't displayed in their manual is automatically wrong. Its basically "This is what you need to memorise to pass the next test". Its quite simple really... They don't accept any method other than their own (I've had dad, who is an educated university professional and a math whiz, tell me the school's method is stupid and show me a faster way to do the same thing, only for the school to tell me its still wrong. Even though I came with the same answer) , so you basically learn "How to pass the next test".
Same goes for other subjects - like RE - there's a difference between allowing critical thinking, which would entail allowing students to display their own beliefs or lack of regarding the religion, but if I write on an exam that the world was created by the big bang, then i'll get marked wrong. If I say something along the lines of "god created the world in 6 days and on the 7th he rested" I get marked right. Even though we all know which of the two is the correct answer.
In the UK it seems that RE is taught from a broad viewpoint teaching about all religions and their histories, not indoctrinating, but here the catholic religion is shoved down your throat (if you go to a catholic high school)
Same goes for other subjects - like RE - there's a difference between allowing critical thinking, which would entail allowing students to display their own beliefs or lack of regarding the religion, but if I write on an exam that the world was created by the big bang, then i'll get marked wrong. If I say something along the lines of "god created the world in 6 days and on the 7th he rested" I get marked right. Even though we all know which of the two is the correct answer.
In the UK it seems that RE is taught from a broad viewpoint teaching about all religions and their histories, not indoctrinating, but here the catholic religion is shoved down your throat (if you go to a catholic high school)
I had a spanish teacher in high school who was not even fluent in spanish, she just read from the book, and played tapes in class.
If the answer was not identical to what her grading book had in it, it was marked wrong, even if it was technically still right.
Oct 9th 2014 | 12:51 pm
#95
Lost in BE Cyberspace
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From: SW Ontario, Canada / Gozo, Malta
Re: Education
Funny story: My elementary school has turned into a "dual track" French immersion + normal school. My friends mum is an ECE (Early Childhood Educator) - higher level of an EA/Educational Assistant
She's Malaysian and has English as her second language. She does not speak French. She was headhunted for a job at my elementary school, in the French immersion part. She informed them that she did not speak French. They obviously didn't care as they hired her anyway......
Oct 9th 2014 | 12:57 pm
#97
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From: On top of the Green hill, NS
Re: Education
It's an abstract answer to a question that really deserves a concrete answer. But you get points for that because I just want to give you points for that.
You definitely get points for the reaction. Rather than just taking a quick, confident guess, you suspect the question is tricky and you really want to "be alone" to think about it. (Or maybe you're just hungry and want to eat the doughnut you have stashed in your otherwise empty filofax.)
Unfortunately, you lose all points for removing the quotation marks and, thus, altering the story so it suits you. However, as this is an interview for a position as a top lawyer in a top law firm, you are immediately offered both the job as well as unlimited "candy".
You definitely get points for the reaction. Rather than just taking a quick, confident guess, you suspect the question is tricky and you really want to "be alone" to think about it. (Or maybe you're just hungry and want to eat the doughnut you have stashed in your otherwise empty filofax.)
Unfortunately, you lose all points for removing the quotation marks and, thus, altering the story so it suits you. However, as this is an interview for a position as a top lawyer in a top law firm, you are immediately offered both the job as well as unlimited "candy".
My response below is not a smart arse one - its a logical question & response of how lawyers logic works.
First reaction to the question - 'would you leave me alone for 5 minutes to think about it' (same as I would like time with my client alone)
My thought process before answering ....
if you give me the single piece of candy, I will eat it, leaving the bag of candy worth $1100.
If you give me the bag of candy & I throw it out the window lose it, misplace it whatever while you are in the washroom), leaving just the piece of candy - then it alone is worth $1100
If you tell me my response is incorrect, then we shall start legal proceedings
First reaction to the question - 'would you leave me alone for 5 minutes to think about it' (same as I would like time with my client alone)
My thought process before answering ....
if you give me the single piece of candy, I will eat it, leaving the bag of candy worth $1100.
If you give me the bag of candy & I throw it out the window lose it, misplace it whatever while you are in the washroom), leaving just the piece of candy - then it alone is worth $1100
If you tell me my response is incorrect, then we shall start legal proceedings
Oct 9th 2014 | 2:03 pm
#98
Born again atheist
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,259
From: Europe (to be specified).
Re: Educashun
Oct 9th 2014 | 2:04 pm
#99
Born again atheist
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Re: Education
[QUOTE=Almost Canadian;11433884]How many middle aged BE's that have forgotten what it is like to be young and full of optimism does it take to beat up a 15 year old optimist?
How many of those that are providing advice as to how one earns a $250K salary earn anything approaching that?[/QUOTE]
One or two I'd think.
How many of those that are providing advice as to how one earns a $250K salary earn anything approaching that?[/QUOTE]
One or two I'd think.
Oct 9th 2014 | 2:06 pm
#100
Born again atheist
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Re: Education
Originally Posted by Dashie;11433871[B
]So Gozit, how did you work out your answer to that question? [/B]
Oct 9th 2014 | 2:35 pm
#102
Born again atheist
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Re: Education
Such is it these days wif youf.
Oct 9th 2014 | 2:37 pm
#103
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Re: Education
Oh, I know. Just living in hope that maybe it would illustrate a value in problem solv.... Oh, never mind... 
Oct 9th 2014 | 7:00 pm
#104
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Re: Education
I'd imagine that's more to do with being at a Catholic school than the country you're in, I'm sure most UK children at a Catholic school would also say the Catholic school is shoved down their throat. Which is kind of the point of a faith school, isn't it?!
Oct 9th 2014 | 7:19 pm
#105
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Re: Education
I totally agree, but the times tables or being able to work out 14x12 in your head is very basic imo. I always struggled with maths and its my weakest area too, but I can manage to do basic sums without a calculator. Just don't ask me about Pythagoras' Theory and I'll be fine.
I can do 14x12 on paper but not in my head and don't need a calculator to figure it out but do need a pencil and some paper.
I don't have an answer as to why I can't mentally figure it out, I need to see it on paper and figure it out the long way, but that is how they taught us in school.
If I have paper and pencil I have no issue doing basic maths, its algebra and above that I can't seem to grasp.
Now my niece, she is a math whiz and loves numbers, my sister says she is 2 grades ahead in math currently. ( she is in 4th grade)
