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The4BellsLondon Mar 12th 2011 6:47 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 9234979)
$40? Sweet Jesus!!

I'm out his way today so i'm going to gradually move my stuff into Alan2005's basement/dungeon :thumbsup:

Don't tell him though............

aah but it comes in a nice small vacuum pack ;)

actually i cant believe it has 12 l of water in it!

mattieuk Mar 12th 2011 6:50 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 9233408)
Excellent thinking. I have an unopened bottle of Remy Martin and a couple of decent single malts. I'll add then to the emergency supplies kit. My only concerns are:

a) we are supposed to be self-sufficient for three days. Will this be sufficient?
b) what will Mrs. JonboyE drink?

With a slightly sadistic twinge, I can picture the aftermath now, with news reporters talking to people who are frantically looking for family members, and then stroll along to you drinking out of a nice crystal tumbler, worrying about how to keep your malts safe.

I think a still drink would be useful after an earthquake though. And it will at least bide the time before the Americans come to deliver coolant, ahem, water, and save the day.

james.mc Mar 12th 2011 7:26 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by mattieuk (Post 9235221)
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I think a still drink would be useful after an earthquake though...

After an earthquake, still would be good ;)

mattieuk Mar 12th 2011 7:28 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by james.mc (Post 9235255)
After an earthquake, still would be good ;)

Goodness me, I used completely the wrong word. Definitely grounds to crack open a bottle and begin the weekend properly, after all it is past midday now! :p

james.mc Mar 12th 2011 7:31 am

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I'm not biting! :) A bottle of Vino Tinto already consumed.. but then again I have a time advantage at the moment.

Eastbound Mar 12th 2011 3:33 pm

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 9235219)
aah but it comes in a nice small vacuum pack ;)

actually i cant believe it has 12 l of water in it!

Checked our emergency pack today bought the pack last year luckily its still in date .
Afterwards OH went out and bought a shed load of antispeptic wet wipes , enough loo roll to last forever , and a wind up radio, I think he feels hes now done his bit .

tracys Mar 13th 2011 8:04 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9233332)
Yes, I have a supply of canned goods, bottled water, a first aid kit and some of those foil blankets. And I was going to stock up on Chunky Soup clam chowder last weekend as they had a five for the price of four special going, but HID vetoed the purchase as apparently we're eating more healthfully at the moment. She can **** off if she thinks she'll steal my Zoodles now if a big earthquake hits.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

jimf Mar 14th 2011 6:12 am

Re: Earthquakes
 
Might need to add iodine tablets to the kits if the ability to cool these nuclear reactors really has been lost.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ear-plant.html

ExKiwilass Mar 14th 2011 6:34 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9233813)
http://geology.about.com/library/bl/...ustralesia.htm

Looking at this most of New Zealand is high/very high risk with a small area moderate. Is that where Christchurch is?


That map isn't very clear, but it looks like roughly where Chch is.


Yet Australia is low risk and they still had one in Newcastle.

ExKiwilass Mar 14th 2011 6:35 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon (Post 9234287)
YOu have? bloody hell I'd better get one 0 they sell em at the IGA for $40 a person!

What's in it?

I got the Red Cross one, it has a wind up radio/flashlight and some water purification tablets etc.

jimf Mar 14th 2011 8:34 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 9239374)
That map isn't very clear, but it looks like roughly where Chch is.


Yet Australia is low risk and they still had one in Newcastle.

I think when you look at the risk map for Australia the area from Sydney to Melbourne is actually moderate risk. I see the Newcastle earthquake was 5.6 which isn't really that powerful. UK is low risk and gets earthquakes in the 5 range every 20 years or so.

There was an article in the NCE about the Christchurch earthquake last week. It says the ground acceleration was recorded at 10 times the value the building design code required. The earthquake codes had come in in the 80s and it wasn't until 2004 that a retrofitting law came in giving 15 years for owners to upgrade buildings, and this was only to withstand 1/3 of the load required by the code.

Apparently codes require designs to withstand an earthquake which has a 10% chance of occuring over 50 years which equates to a 150 year event. The Christchurch earthquake exceeded a 1 in 1000 year event.

I remember reading that Vancouver has a retrofitting programme for older buildings. From what I remember it was quite a long term project. I would certainly think twice about living or working in a rc/masonary structure which hadn't been upgraded yet.

ExKiwilass Mar 14th 2011 10:11 am

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9239584)
I think when you look at the risk map for Australia the area from Sydney to Melbourne is actually moderate risk. I see the Newcastle earthquake was 5.6 which isn't really that powerful. UK is low risk and gets earthquakes in the 5 range every 20 years or so.

There was an article in the NCE about the Christchurch earthquake last week. It says the ground acceleration was recorded at 10 times the value the building design code required. The earthquake codes had come in in the 80s and it wasn't until 2004 that a retrofitting law came in giving 15 years for owners to upgrade buildings, and this was only to withstand 1/3 of the load required by the code.

Apparently codes require designs to withstand an earthquake which has a 10% chance of occuring over 50 years which equates to a 150 year event. The Christchurch earthquake exceeded a 1 in 1000 year event.

I remember reading that Vancouver has a retrofitting programme for older buildings. From what I remember it was quite a long term project. I would certainly think twice about living or working in a rc/masonary structure which hadn't been upgraded yet.

THe sky is falling, the sky is FALLIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!! :eek:;)

gryphea Mar 14th 2011 12:02 pm

Re: Earthquakes
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9239584)
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I remember reading that Vancouver has a retrofitting programme for older buildings. From what I remember it was quite a long term project. I would certainly think twice about living or working in a rc/masonary structure which hadn't been upgraded yet.

I would think twice about living in the low lying areas (think Richmond). Very susceptible to liquefaction and failures due to amplification of motion at resonant frequencies similar to all the buildings.

Think Kobe, Mexico City and Alaska.

ExKiwilass Mar 15th 2011 11:22 am

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Originally Posted by gryphea (Post 9240112)
I would think twice about living in the low lying areas (think Richmond). Very susceptible to liquefaction and failures due to amplification of motion at resonant frequencies similar to all the buildings.

Think Kobe, Mexico City and Alaska.

Yes, and that was what screwed Christchurch as well - very susceptible to liquefaction. I wouldn't live in Richmond anyway but the fact it's below sea level doesn't help.

Lord Vader Mar 15th 2011 4:40 pm

Re: Earthquakes
 
It has happened before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700_Cascadia_earthquake


It came to light that it will happen again back in the 1980's.
http://archives.cbc.ca/environment/n...s/topics/1561/


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