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Essay Jul 17th 2011 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9501263)
Plus most Canadians have little contact with other cultures' foods as most don't travel further than Florida so they have little to no comparison.

Again, must agree. My southern Ontario experience is far different from my Edmonton experience. Many people here only travel to Arizona, Hawaii or sheltered all-inclusive resorts in Mexico, and others have never been on a plane. I'm not mocking them; it's just a different way of life here than what I grew up with.

CanadaJimmy Jul 19th 2011 11:36 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9501233)
Oh come on I've taken a large enough sample of mediocre to dreadful restaurants here that are packed by Canadians. It’s the Corner Gas syndrome I believe. They've all grown with such shit restaurants in their little towns that when they bugger off to Toronto or Vancouver they want something familiar.

I've seen more dreadful restaurants packed in the UK than I have here, mainly because eating out in the UK is terrible in general. Dining in Canada (based on my experience in Metro Van) isn't spectacular, especially when compared to countries like Spain for example, but I still think it's pretty decent.

Vancouver is big on many non-small-town cuisines, take Sushi for example. It was also voted a few years ago as having the best Chinese food in the world, which was said to be due to the excellent produce from all the local farms around here.

lmartin999 Jul 19th 2011 12:33 pm

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Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 9505786)
I've seen more dreadful restaurants packed in the UK than I have here, mainly because eating out in the UK is terrible in general.

The UK has a large number of genuinely world class restaurants - Ramsay on RHR, the Fat Duck, Hibiscus, L'enclume etc. Canada has nowhere that comes close to these.
As for dreadful, consider the Canadian staple of Swiss Chalet....

lmartin999 Jul 19th 2011 12:34 pm

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Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 9505786)
Dining in Canada (based on my experience in Metro Van) isn't spectacular, especially when compared to countries like Spain for example,

I agree, nothing to come remotely close to El Bulli.

Boy d Jul 19th 2011 12:36 pm

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Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 9505786)
I've seen more dreadful restaurants packed in the UK than I have here, mainly because eating out in the UK is terrible in general. Dining in Canada (based on my experience in Metro Van) isn't spectacular, especially when compared to countries like Spain for example, but I still think it's pretty decent.

Vancouver is big on many non-small-town cuisines, take Sushi for example. It was also voted a few years ago as having the best Chinese food in the world, which was said to be due to the excellent produce from all the local farms around here.

I agree. There are way more good restaurants than bad here, way more. England, at least in the north is mediocre to the point of tedium. Everytown is the same: bunch of Indians, couple of chinese, a kebab shop, pie shop, chippies and perhaps an Italian and maybe something exotic like a Viet or a Thai place. Then of course there is the pub with the same collection of cavery or chicken in a basket....

Personally I wonder if people are in the same city.......Curries aside, Vancouver has way more selection and quality eateries than just about anywhere in the UK, with the exception of London.

lmartin999 Jul 19th 2011 12:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Boy d (Post 9505867)
I agree. There are way more good restaurants than bad here, way more. England, at least in the north is mediocre to the point of tedium. Everytown is the same: bunch of Indians, couple of chinese, a kebab shop, pie shop, chippies and perhaps an Italian and maybe something exotic like a Viet or a Thai place. Then of course there is the pub with the same collection of cavery or chicken in a basket....

Personally I wonder if people are in the same city.......Curries aside, Vancouver has way more selection and quality eateries than just about anywhere in the UK, with the exception of London.

Talk about a cliched view of the north :thumbdown:

dbd33 Jul 19th 2011 12:45 pm

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I have a curry question one of you withdrawees may be able to answer. We eat loads of Indian food, purchased, and usually eaten, in Little India or Brampton. Sometimes it's convenient to take the food home even though this means reheating it. Curry survives reheating well, most Indian dishes do, but not nan, it's rubbish within five miles of the restaurant. Is there a means by which the inhabitants of Vancouver or Winnipeg or anywhere else in the void west of Detroit are able to take nan home from Toronto or Montreal or Dallas or wherever the nearest restaurant may be and maintain it in an edible state?

Boy d Jul 19th 2011 12:46 pm

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9505864)
The UK has a large number of genuinely world class restaurants - Ramsay on RHR, the Fat Duck, Hibiscus, L'enclume etc. Canada has nowhere that comes close to these.
As for dreadful, consider the Canadian staple of Swiss Chalet....

vs all the chain eateries in the UK. How is tasty eater these days? Beefeater or how about that pub chain......Weatherspoons...with their hockey puck inspired burgers? Not to mention all the US imports TGI, pizza hut, KFC.......;)

lmartin999 Jul 19th 2011 12:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Boy d (Post 9505885)
vs all the chain eateries in the UK. How is tasty eater these days? Beefeater or how about that pub chain......Weatherspoons...with their hockey puck inspired burgers? Not to mention all the US imports TGI, pizza hut, KFC.......;)

I don't disagree these kind of places exist, same as they do here. There is endless pub food just like Weatherspoons, though you will pay more for it and your beer. At least at Wetherspoons the crap food is cheap as is the beer. However, like here, and possibly more so, there are some great restaurants. You suggested that all everything in the north was mediocre, which is simply not true.

Oink Jul 19th 2011 12:51 pm

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The common opinion that sushi/sashimi is great in Vancouver I think is misguided. The problem is that because there are so many restaurants it drives down the price but subsequently drives down quality. There are a lot of sushi places here, but only one or two good ones.

Oink Jul 19th 2011 12:55 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9505881)
I have a curry question one of you withdrawees may be able to answer. We eat loads of Indian food, purchased, and usually eaten, in Little India or Brampton. Sometimes it's convenient to take the food home even though this means reheating it. Curry survives reheating well, most Indian dishes do, but not nan, it's rubbish within five miles of the restaurant. Is there a means by which the inhabitants of Vancouver or Winnipeg or anywhere else in the void west of Detroit are able to take nan home from Toronto or Montreal or Dallas or wherever the nearest restaurant may be and maintain it in an edible state?

When you get home, put the oven on to 450 or 500f when hot put your naan in for about 3mins. Not quite out of the tandoor fresh but still nice.

dbd33 Jul 19th 2011 1:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9505892)
When you get home, put the oven on to 450 or 500f when hot put your naan in for about 3mins. Not quite out of the tandoor fresh but still nice.

Noted, will try, thanks.

lmartin999 Jul 19th 2011 1:05 pm

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Lumiere in Vancouver when Rob Feenie was there was rather good.

And of course, as discussed previously, there is Vijs.....

Anything world class?

Boy d Jul 19th 2011 1:06 pm

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9505889)
I don't disagree these kind of places exist, same as they do here. There is endless pub food just like Weatherspoons, though you will pay more for it and your beer. At least at Wetherspoons the crap food is cheap as is the beer. However, like here, and possibly more so, there are some great restaurants. You suggested that all everything in the north was mediocre, which is simply not true.

well i have certainly not tried all of them;) still, if one is to wander around say Manchester or Bradford.....I'd hardly say it's comparable to here and typically more pricey. Vancouver and manchester are similar sized cities...Manchester is apparently the UK's 'second city' there is no where near the selection there vs here.

To hold out the north as some gastro Utopia on the basis that there may well be some diamonds amongst the rough is just plain silly.....

dbd33 Jul 19th 2011 1:07 pm

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9505902)
Lumiere in Vancouver when Rob Feenie was there was rather good.

And of course, as discussed previously, there is Vijs.....

Anything world class?

Oh, ffs, who among us has a world class gob?


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