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Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 12402051)
The 'cost' to the economy is the opportunity cost of lost production and (probable) reduced spending. Possible to quantify (using averages) but irrelevant.
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Re: The country we left behind
That's exactly my point. How is it determined that a public holiday is a net loss to the economy?
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Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 12402076)
That's exactly my point. How is it determined that a public holiday is a net loss to the economy?
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Re: The country we left behind
Factor in some rest time for workers and some double time too
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Re: The country we left behind
Sales of beer & barbecues, train and air tickets twice the price as normal, roads heaving, pubs jammed... surely that is counted when determining the 'cost' of a holiday?
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Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by caretaker
(Post 12402080)
That's right, factor in the revenue from little flags and bunting, it all adds up.
In 2017 there were 260 working days, ie days when work, and I mean proper jobs that generated wealth, could do just that. Factor in a few holidays and the average wealth creator worked for about 240 days. omitting just another day from this and wealth creation falls by about 0.4 percent. I'm not saying statutary holidays are a bad thing but common sense tells me that there's a cost associated with them that not everyone bears equally. |
Re: The country we left behind
I wouldn't worry, 60% of the populace are net beneficiaries of the State anyway!:lol:
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Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by dave_j
(Post 12402149)
If more statutary holidays were a good thing that benefitted the economy etc. then all and sundry would be clammering to have more of them but it doesn't happen.
In 2017 there were 260 working days, ie days when work, and I mean proper jobs that generated wealth, could do just that. Factor in a few holidays and the average wealth creator worked for about 240 days. omitting just another day from this and wealth creation falls by about 0.4 percent. I'm not saying statutary holidays are a bad thing but common sense tells me that there's a cost associated with them that not everyone bears equally. This must prove to be a communist plot. |
Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by dave_j
(Post 12402149)
If more statutary holidays were a good thing that benefitted the economy etc. then all and sundry would be clammering to have more of them but it doesn't happen...
I regularly read, for example, about "bed blockers" - people in hospital, waiting months or more for a place in a more appropriate care home. The cost to the public purse of keeping them in hospital is apparently far greater than the cost to the public purse of having them in a care home and that's ignoring the other costs involved in things that can't be done because a hospital bed is occupied when it needn't be. |
Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 12401835)
Several questions
What's a modern communist? When does socialism become extreme? Wasn't it just one extra bank holiday, ie one for each country? Why does education define wage? Aren't there other factors? A modern communist/extreme socialist are terms I made up, they are not official and are my opinion only. They are terms I coined to put my point across. Despite what I said earlier Corbyn is not a communist, as even he knows communism has never worked anywhere in the world, but no one can deny that Corbyn's policies are far left which takes socialism to the extreme, as I have said in earlier posts, his socialist intentions are well meaning but are unrealistic and unachievable. The Patron Saint holiday pledge he made was for FOUR UK wide holidays, one for each home nation, which again is well meaning in trying to bring the UK together, but unrealistic, there are other ways to try and unite the UK. Im not sure what you mean in that how does education define a wage? I'd have thought that was obvious? Isn't that how we all play a role in society, we go to school and are educated and then go to college or university to get educated/trained further so that we can do a job to enable to make a living?If an individual strives to obtain a good education, then don't they deserve a better wage than someone who can't be bothered to do that? |
Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 12402166)
Not saying that's wrong but logic and common sense doesn't always come out on top.
Now we can use logic and/or common sense or we can look at tea leaves or toss a coin. I suspect that logic and common sense wins most of the time, but what do I know. |
Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by ThomasSow
(Post 12402183)
Living in France is one thing desired by many individuals. If you want to live in France then you have to get French property. You can read the advertisement section of the newspapers which has the section of houses for sale in France. After making a suitable choice, you should research about the properties for sale in France. French property is now a days very much wanted also.
If you want to live in France and spend your life there you should select a proper house. French property is not cheap and you need to make a major investment. You must also know about the properties for sale in France at various locations. The houses for sale in France come in different prices depending on the location |
Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by ThomasSow
(Post 12402183)
Living in France is one thing desired by many individuals. If you want to live in France then you have to get French property. You can read the advertisement section of the newspapers which has the section of houses for sale in France. After making a suitable choice, you should research about the properties for sale in France. French property is now a days very much wanted also.
If you want to live in France and spend your life there you should select a proper house. French property is not cheap and you need to make a major investment. You must also know about the properties for sale in France at various locations. The houses for sale in France come in different prices depending on the location |
Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
(Post 12402181)
A modern communist/extreme socialist are terms I made up, they are not official and are my opinion only. They are terms I coined to put my point across.
Despite what I said earlier Corbyn is not a communist, as even he knows communism has never worked anywhere in the world, but no one can deny that Corbyn's policies are far left which takes socialism to the extreme, as I have said in earlier posts, his socialist intentions are well meaning but are unrealistic and unachievable. The Patron Saint holiday pledge he made was for FOUR UK wide holidays, one for each home nation, which again is well meaning in trying to bring the UK together, but unrealistic, there are other ways to try and unite the UK. Im not sure what you mean in that how does education define a wage? I'd have thought that was obvious? Isn't that how we all play a role in society, we go to school and are educated and then go to college or university to get educated/trained further so that we can do a job to enable to make a living?If an individual strives to obtain a good education, then don't they deserve a better wage than someone who can't be bothered to do that? |
Re: The country we left behind
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 12402213)
I'm glad to hear that Corbyn and Wynne aren't commies after all, but to your last point https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/253724
To my other point, I actually meant to add that to my post, about the entrepreneur route to success, this is a natural talent that a person is born with and not something that you can be taught, you either have it or you don't. |
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