Coronavirus
#6121
limey party pooper
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,979
Re: Coronavirus
Firstly, there's no proof that I had COVID, probability says yes, but not testing done.
Secondly, you can get it again.
Thirdly, I like that masks also hinder spread of the common cold, flu, etc.
Regular masks give protection to others from your bugs. N95 masks give protection to the wearer.
Secondly, you can get it again.
Thirdly, I like that masks also hinder spread of the common cold, flu, etc.
Regular masks give protection to others from your bugs. N95 masks give protection to the wearer.
#6122
Re: Coronavirus
Or dying with it as the case may be.
You may recall I posted that in January the UK had a daily death total on one day higher than any other single day since February 2021. It wasn't a freakishly high day, just the usual up and down. I'm fairly sure there were fewer and less strict measures this year than a year ago.
Boris "let the bodies pile high" has handled matters very poorly compared to many others and seems the last person to be making decisions.
But it's different from place to place. For most of the last two years people over here have been able to do what they normally do outside of small periodswhere they might not get to a gym for localised reasons but they could in a different are of the province. Or they might only be able to mix with "only" 20 people. Or eat out at 50% capacity (what a hardship for them) or restricted to take-out/delivery only for a bout 2 months over almost two years.
So that's where I live and where I used to live both with high current death rates for a supposedly non threatening variant and both with few, if any, restrictions or blasé attitudes, like not wearing masks in packed out football stadiums.
So no or few restrictions or measures seems to equate to dying with the virus (for some) rather than living with it.
What currently can you not do where you are?
You may recall I posted that in January the UK had a daily death total on one day higher than any other single day since February 2021. It wasn't a freakishly high day, just the usual up and down. I'm fairly sure there were fewer and less strict measures this year than a year ago.
Boris "let the bodies pile high" has handled matters very poorly compared to many others and seems the last person to be making decisions.
But it's different from place to place. For most of the last two years people over here have been able to do what they normally do outside of small periodswhere they might not get to a gym for localised reasons but they could in a different are of the province. Or they might only be able to mix with "only" 20 people. Or eat out at 50% capacity (what a hardship for them) or restricted to take-out/delivery only for a bout 2 months over almost two years.
So that's where I live and where I used to live both with high current death rates for a supposedly non threatening variant and both with few, if any, restrictions or blasé attitudes, like not wearing masks in packed out football stadiums.
So no or few restrictions or measures seems to equate to dying with the virus (for some) rather than living with it.
What currently can you not do where you are?
I really feel for small business owners, many of gone under, many are about to, two of my friends have lost their business's, one owned a bar, another is about to lose his small restaurant.....
I haven't been to a gym/fitness class in over two years, I try to do what I can, but I am probably the most physically out of shape I have been in my life, just when I am at an age when I should be focusing on exercise with on going cardio health, and I don't buy into those stupid peleton things...that's an expensive fad and such a useless non motivational alternative if ever I saw one.
A close family member unexpectedly passed away in the UK at the beginning of the year, I really needed to be at the funeral, not just for obvious reasons, but to help me deal with my grief by being with my family. I studied the Canadian federal border restrictions, and decided it was just too much of risk.... not from getting covid whilst in the UK, that was not my fear, but my fear was being stranded there, and not being able to return to Canada, and therefore putting my job in jeopardy, I have since found that there is somewhat of a loop hole in returning, in that you can travel 10 days after testing positive even if you continue to test positive, I am not sure how true that is. I didn't know this at the time and decided not to go, and now deeply regret my decision.
Personally this was the last straw for me, I have done everything asked of me for two years (particulary when covid was indeed a bigger threat) I have adhered to all covid guidelines and rules, I am triple vaccinated, so I have done all I possibly can, enough is enough, we need to learn to live with it.... Protect the vunerable, get vaccinated and lets move on.
#6123
#6124
Re: Coronavirus
Firstly, there's no proof that I had COVID, probability says yes, but not testing done.
Secondly, you can get it again.
Thirdly, I like that masks also hinder spread of the common cold, flu, etc.
Regular masks give protection to others from your bugs. N95 masks give protection to the wearer.
Secondly, you can get it again.
Thirdly, I like that masks also hinder spread of the common cold, flu, etc.
Regular masks give protection to others from your bugs. N95 masks give protection to the wearer.
Out of all the restrictions we have had, the indoor mask order is the one that I cannot wait to get dropped. In my opinion, poorly fitted cloth masks are no more than facial decorations.
#6125
Forum Regular
Joined: Feb 2016
Location: Ontario
Posts: 192
Re: Coronavirus
Personally this was the last straw for me, I have done everything asked of me for two years (particulary when covid was indeed a bigger threat) I have adhered to all covid guidelines and rules, I am triple vaccinated, so I have done all I possibly can, enough is enough, we need to learn to live with it.... Protect the vunerable, get vaccinated and lets move on.
Life in Canada right now is miserable.
Empty streets, empty restaurants and bars.
Empty gyms.
Gas prices at all time high.
8% inflation.
Businesses going under all around you.
All for what??
#6126
Re: Coronavirus
Its a depressing scenario that can't continue indefinitely.
#6127
Forum Regular
Joined: Feb 2016
Location: Ontario
Posts: 192
Re: Coronavirus
If the run on the Canadian banks happens (as has been forecast) we might have to go busking for a living..
#6128
limey party pooper
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,979
Re: Coronavirus
I agree with you about the cloth masks, especially ones that never get cleaned - hence my preference for an N95. Obviously hasn't been properly fitted but it's not a bad fit.
#6129
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Sep 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 833
Re: Coronavirus
I haven't been to a gym/fitness class in over two years, I try to do what I can, but I am probably the most physically out of shape I have been in my life, just when I am at an age when I should be focusing on exercise with on going cardio health, and I don't buy into those stupid peleton things...that's an expensive fad and such a useless non motivational alternative if ever I saw one.
A close family member unexpectedly passed away in the UK at the beginning of the year, I really needed to be at the funeral, not just for obvious reasons, but to help me deal with my grief by being with my family. I studied the Canadian federal border restrictions, and decided it was just too much of risk.... not from getting covid whilst in the UK, that was not my fear, but my fear was being stranded there, and not being able to return to Canada, and therefore putting my job in jeopardy, I have since found that there is somewhat of a loop hole in returning, in that you can travel 10 days after testing positive even if you continue to test positive, I am not sure how true that is. I didn't know this at the time and decided not to go, and now deeply regret my decision.
Personally this was the last straw for me, I have done everything asked of me for two years (particulary when covid was indeed a bigger threat) I have adhered to all covid guidelines and rules, I am triple vaccinated, so I have done all I possibly can, enough is enough, we need to learn to live with it.... Protect the vunerable, get vaccinated and lets move on.
#6130
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 810
Re: Coronavirus
#6131
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Sep 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 833
Re: Coronavirus
What do you think the "Canadian government" could have done better or differently? The UK has a cumulative death rate that is almost 2.5x that of Canada so not sure I would say UK handled it better.
#6132
Re: Coronavirus
My doctor has not been vaccinated. He has had, and recovered from, the virus and, as a result of that, believes that there is no benefit to him having the vaccine. He has a document to this effect posted on the entrance to his surgery and it indicates that he will refer anyone that doesn't want to risk seeing him to another doctor.
The science backs his position so why should he be shown the door?
The science backs his position so why should he be shown the door?
It's tragic that companies have gone under, people lost jobs etc. But all that was at the worst of times wasn't it? When very many more people would have died of covid and many more of treatable conditions that couldn't be treated had covid overwhelmed the hospitals.
Just about every jurisdiction seems to be talking about lifting the last of the restrictions - in the UK including not bothering with masks and when that happened here the government soon realised it was a mistake and that was pre-Omicron!
If everything is basically open, why does there have to be an alternative? Christ there was a time we could only go to the pub at lunchtimes and evenings and then have last orders at 10.20, or the shops were closed on Sundays and bank holidays. It's not as if we never had to accept that not everything was available 24/7.
Personally this was the last straw for me, I have done everything asked of me for two years (particulary when covid was indeed a bigger threat) I have adhered to all covid guidelines and rules, I am triple vaccinated, so I have done all I possibly can, enough is enough, we need to learn to live with it.... Protect the vunerable, get vaccinated and lets move on.
It's just meaningless words. If what you mean is losing a few old and unwell people is a small price to pay for life going on for everyone else, then say so. I can relate to Mr Spock's "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." I just don't think we're 'there' yet.
#6134
Re: Coronavirus
Here in BC, you were not able to dance at a wedding
Thank God some of these rules are being changed tomorrow...
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/c...o/restrictions
Thank God some of these rules are being changed tomorrow...
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/c...o/restrictions
Last edited by Jerseygirl; Feb 16th 2022 at 10:19 am. Reason: Fixed quote
#6135
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 810
Re: Coronavirus
Also the UK didn't have a senseless and costly snap election which brought no results, not even for the one calling it, and that at a very high cost, money which could have been spent elsewhere. Remember the hallway medicine debate in Ontario? Or childcare? all before the pandemic?
And then there are these ridiculous travel and entry into Canada requirements. The UK tailored mandatory and costly hotel stays by country, but Canada didn't it was for all.
Also the current announcement to finally scrap PCR tests for the vaccinated travelers, but still requiring another test for the vaccinated is a joke. Travelling into the UK is totally easy now, for the vaccinated ones, no further tests, no 48 hours or 72 hours before, or whatever ridiculous time frame, Remember you could infect yourself right after the test, and the result is even then negative......
Yes, you may disagree with my opinion, but again, I don't really see anything positive in Canada's handling of the pandemic. Only that a majority seems to believe that it was good and accept things.