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Old Apr 12th 2021, 5:04 pm
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This article today in Vancouver Sun.

"More than 100 passengers arriving at Vancouver International Airport have refused to quarantine at a government-authorized hotel since the “mandatory” three-day quarantine was introduced on Feb. 22."

"Those people face up to $3,000 a day in fines, Jarbeau said. A three-night stay in a GAA costs around $2,500."

Between Feb. 22 and April 6, almost 176,000 travellers by air and land across Canada were tested for COVID upon arrival. Of those, 2,282 tested positive for COVID-19

The testing margin for error is about 1/1000. As you're supposed to provide a negative test prior to boarding I would question just how genuine some of these pre flight tests were.
So that means that on the average there'll be about one person per flight who'll have the virus (presumably unknowingly), which essentially means that all airport arrivals will probably have been exposed during boarding, in-flight, or while deplaning, right?
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Canada benefits by snowbirds having gotten fully vaccinated in the U.S., thus freeing-up doses for fellow Canadians (owing to plainly evident incomoetence in the planning, procurement, & distribution of vaccines by career PH bureaucrats & politicians).
Non arrival has zero to do with competence. You'd do better not to generalise.
And the viral variants themselves of course differentiate not between border-crossing sapiens, whether "essential" or non.
So it's quite a good idea not to have all and sundry crossing then. Would you prefer to have everyone crossing making it even worse or nobody crossing with the loss of foodstuffs etc?
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Non arrival has zero to do with competence. You'd do better not to generalise.

So it's quite a good idea not to have all and sundry crossing then. Would you prefer to have everyone crossing making it even worse or nobody crossing with the loss of foodstuffs etc?
"Non arrival" simply means that the orders likely went to someone else with more proficiently persuasive influence than our national reps in Ottawa & our diplomats abroad.

Goods crossing borders can & should be being handed-over to relay drivers at the border.
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"Non arrival" simply means that the orders likely went to someone else with more proficiently persuasive influence than our national reps in Ottawa & our diplomats abroad.
No, it means that the vaccines were ordered from Europe and the producers shut down for a period to speed up production later but halting production in the short term.
So there was a short term delay in a vaccine program which we've now seen sped up.
Goods crossing borders can & should be being handed-over to relay drivers at the border.
I suspect that might push up the costs considerably.
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No, it means that the vaccines were ordered from Europe and the producers shut down for a period to speed up production later but halting production in the short term.
So there was a short term delay in a vaccine program which we've now seen sped up.

I suspect that might push up the costs considerably.
(1.) Non private sector background naivete, & (2.) Smokescreening BS.
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(1.) Non private sector background naivete, .
So Vaccine Shortfall to Hit Europe, Canada as Pfizer Plant Is Upgraded didn't happen then.
The European Union, Canada and some other countries will receive fewer doses next week of the Covid-19 vaccine made by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE due to an upgrade at Pfizer’s European factory, the companies said Friday, adding to concerns about the slow pace of the global vaccine rollout.The delay won’t affect the U.S.
This was false then.
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If you haven't already, fill out your organ donor card.
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So Vaccine Shortfall to Hit Europe, Canada as Pfizer Plant Is Upgraded didn't happen then.
This was false then.
Only affected a single week's delivery; not the sum total of millions of missing doses being discussed.
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3,289 new cases over the weekend.

18 deaths over the 3 day period.

368 patients are in hospital, including 121 people in critical care. ICU number is record high.

Deaths are mostly taking place in the community now, mostly people in their 60's and 70's, LTC homes haven't been seeing deaths in sometime due to vaccination.

50% of cases are now variants of some sort.

1.112 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in BC, mostly 1 dose, less than 100,000 people have received both doses last I saw is was 86,000 or so with 2 doses.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...l-12-1.5984289

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3,289 new cases over the weekend.

18 deaths over the 3 day period.

368 patients are in hospital, including 121 people in critical care. ICU number is record high.

Deaths are mostly taking place in the community now, mostly people in their 60's and 70's, LTC homes haven't been seeing deaths in sometime due to vaccination.

50% of cases are now variants of some sort.

1.112 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in BC, mostly 1 dose, less than 100,000 people have received both doses last I saw is was 86,000 or so with 2 doses.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...l-12-1.5984289
It's been well known for months that the UK variant is highly transmissable, and yet...




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It's been well known for months that the UK variant is highly transmissable, and yet...

We have the P1 variant too, most P1 variant cases outside of Brazil.

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Only affected a single week's delivery; .
Longer and then because of the shutdown further time to build back up. This affected two different vaccines.

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Longer and then because of the shutdown further time to build back up. This affected two different vaccines.
If Canada's truly been so beholdenly held up in receiving its doses owing to a mfr slowdown, how is it then that Australia's fed govt was able at very short notice last week (after they'd effectively canned the AZ) to secure an extra 10 million Pfizer doses in less than 48hrs? Don't you think that Minister Anand in Ottawa might be just a tad less than either motivated or stellar in her procurement role?
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If Canada's truly been so beholdenly held up in receiving its doses owing to a mfr slowdown, how is it then that Australia's fed govt was able at very short notice last week (after they'd effectively canned the AZ) to secure an extra 10 million Pfizer doses in less than 48hrs? Don't you think that Minister Anand in Ottawa might be just a tad less than either motivated or stellar in her procurement role?
do you think Canada needs to order more vaccines? The federal government has ordered something like 4 times the number needed. The problems seem to be in distribution of the ones already received.

P.S. I've no ideas what "beholdenly held up" means.
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