bats

all flights from the UK suspended. Pretty awful for anyone emigrating right now.

Jerseygirl

Wow...the US will follow.

Danny B

I don't quite understand how it is more transmissible. If people are wearing a mask AND social distancing, what is there to worry about?

There is quite a decent wiki article about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VUI_%E2%80%93_202012/01

Siouxie

COVID-19 Public Exposures
Flights impacted by covid into YVR... though none from the UK

Other airports > https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...atherings.html

Danny B

Huh?
The screenshot you quoted me on has an exposure into YVR from LHR.
Flight AC855 on Dec 10th. Rows 35-42.

printer

Ha ha not according to this story, Trump is UK's only friend it says.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/135340...vid-19-strain/

scrubbedexpat091

The US likely wont halt flights, but I wont be surprised if they go to USC and Green Card holders only and deny entry for everyone else.

BristolUK

If mask wearing and distancing merely reduces the chances of infection, rather than guarantees it - even ignoring where people are not doing it as they should - and because there are occasions where 6'/2m isn't enough, then for a version of it that is up to 70% more transmissible, masks are going to be a bit less effective and 6'/2m less likely to be as safe a distance than for the original version.

Siouxie

Woops - thanks, and apologies - not sure how I missed that! I stand corrected!

I was looking at the link I gave you - not your post.. and yes, there is one (10th December) hidden amongst the others.
More worrying are all the flights across Canada! (pdf opens in new tab, no download) http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site...es-Current.pdf

Jerseygirl

so they may only let USC’s and perhaps PRs enter the US...

scrubbedexpat091

Seems at least at YVR people are indeed not travelling much by air this holiday season, YVR showing traffic down 85% to 90%.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...cent-1.5849655

printer

That's massive for Christmas week.

scrubbedexpat091

Significant. The massive reduction by airlines, massive reduction of passengers, has led YVR to halt their fairly large airport improvement project they broke ground on in 2018 to help conserve cash, once demand rises again and revenue starts to return, they will eventually finish it. ground transportation center, new parkade, central utilities building, as well as a geo-thermal heating and cooling system.

The Pier D International Terminal Expansion was nearly done, so they did continue that one to complete it.

YVR went from massive growth and not having enough gates at peak times especially in international and US departure gates, to a ghost town. Crazy fast decline.

Most recent monthly stats I could find is for September which were released in November, September 2020 saw a 84.6% decline in passengers vs 2019.

• Domestic:
  • 2019: 1,136,494
  • 2020: 287,531 (-74.7%)
• US transborder:
  • 2019: 529,152
  • 2020: 20,776 (-96.1%)
• Asia Pacific:
  • 2019: 374,264
  • 2020: 32,909 (-91.2%)
• Europe:
  • 2019: 221,492
  • 2020: 12,313 (-94.4%)
• Miscellaneous:
  • 2019: 41,994
  • 2020: 1,885 (-95.5%)

6.4 million passengers through YVR Jan 1 to Sept 30, 2020 down from 20.3 million same period in 2019.


24 flights between Dec 6 and 16 with possible COVID exposure.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/24-flights-add...ures-1.5238679

Jingsamichty

Boris Johnson is quite correctly getting absolute pelters in the sensible parts of the UK media for his jingo-bluster-flip-flop style of "leadership". Kier Starmer hit the nail on the head when he said that Johnson cares more about being popular than he cares about making difficult decisions.

What I can't get my head around is that if London is put into Tier 4, why did they (i) not do it immediately instead of saying "from midnight tomorrow", and (ii) allow trains and planes out of London to keep running? It's a recipe for disaster, just because they don't want to make tough decisions.

caretaker

Parkside Extendicare in Regina turned into a hell-hole and there was nothing the familes of the residents could do. After seeing what happened early on in Quebec and Ontario maybe the management had time to bolster their staffing or improve conditions, and maybe not. There will probably be an inquiry at some point.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...d-19-1.5840770
My best friend's mother died in there an hour and a half ago and of course he couldn't be there. I'd known her for almost 50 years and she was the sweetest, kindest woman you're ever likely to meet. She just tested positive less than 2 weeks ago.
The father of a co-worker was in there until about 3 months ago, when she was able to get him a space in a nursing home out of town. I think she saved his life.