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scrubbedexpat142 Nov 12th 2020 5:50 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12935053)
:lol:
Woops!!! I realised after I had posted.. I moved it left instead of right, LOL! (Wishful thinking, perhaps) :o

Easy mistake when there are so many damn noughts!

Shard Nov 12th 2020 9:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12935007)
I had no idea things were so bad in Blighty :eek:

The UK has become the first country in Europe to pass 50,000 coronavirus deaths, coming after the US, Brazil, India and Mexico.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54905018

UK
22,000 cases yesterday ....
33,000 cases today. :blink:


scrubbedexpat091 Nov 12th 2020 9:47 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Small outbreak at Nanaimo Hospital. 5 staff members so far infected. They believe they know the source and wasn't a patient, and is linked to the Lower Mainland.

Possibly a staff member who went to the lower mainland?

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/n...alth-1.5186217


BC didn't report numbers yesterday, so I imagine today's might very well be over 1,000 since the last day reported was Tuesday with 525, so 1,000+ reported today wouldn't be too radical a guess.


Updated: 1,130 new cases.

155 in hospital.

4 deaths since Tuesday. 3 in long term care homes, and 1 was a community death.

bats Nov 12th 2020 10:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12934883)
I am assuming the stupid vaccination is for the government that ruined a generation of kids education, torched the economy and plunged the country into levels of debt that our great grandchildren will still be paying off when they retire aged 90! Agreed it's not great for those touched by Covid but 50,000 dead (within 28 days of a covid diagnosis) most of whom sadly would have died in the near future anyway is a tiny number out of 70m. To most people catching covid is pretty much a non event and more an inconvenience than anything but the eventual reckoning to come is going to be so much worse. One of my kids had it and recovered and only found out though having an antibody test for work. Another currently has it together with her partner who live with us, they felt a bit under the weather for a few days but it's the time off work which will affect them more plus the inconvenience to the rest of the family thet we are all having now to isolate. Lucklily my wife and I work from home, unluckily we are both classed as high risk so yes it might not be great if either of us got it but the chances are we would be just fine so we kick on and try and keep our tiny cog in the economy going.

Well that's alright then. What's your formula for assessing whose life is worth saving? You've said that you and your wife are high risk so that must must you fairly high up on the sacrifice scale.? Still your noble efforts to save the economy might score you a few points.

Shard Nov 12th 2020 11:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
For those that see "a bit of death" as a necessary hardship to keep the economy open, I wonder how high the deaths can be. We're at 50K in the UK, many seem untroubled by it, what about 100K? 200K, higher? Or would concern only arise when the infection level reached a point where hospitals were unable to cope? The irony is that if infection levels increased much further, the economy would collapse regardless of any government intervention. Collapse further, that is.

scrubbedexpat091 Nov 13th 2020 12:26 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Visual for BC

Cumulative total and totals for last 14 days broken down by region. (only behind spoiler as it loads kind of big.)



printer Nov 13th 2020 12:41 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12935158)
For those that see "a bit of death" as a necessary hardship to keep the economy open, I wonder how high the deaths can be. We're at 50K in the UK, many seem untroubled by it, what about 100K? 200K, higher? Or would concern only arise when the infection level reached a point where hospitals were unable to cope? The irony is that if infection levels increased much further, the economy would collapse regardless of any government intervention. Collapse further, that is.

Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.

old.sparkles Nov 13th 2020 1:31 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12935167)
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.

Can you add the link to the article?

bats Nov 13th 2020 1:50 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12935167)
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.

what does it make you think?

Siouxie Nov 13th 2020 5:02 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 12935171)
Can you add the link to the article?

https://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/ne...ts-and-figures
https://www.healthawareness.co.uk/ca...ses-the-facts/
- there's also a pdf if you want to download it - www.bhf.org.uk › research › bhf-cvd-statistics-uk-factsheet
:)

Those figures used to be far worse - thank goodness our knowledge is far more advanced than it was (and there are now treatments available..)

In 1961, more than half of all deaths in the UK were attributed to heart and circulatory diseases (320,000 deaths)

printer Nov 13th 2020 5:27 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12935204)
https://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/ne...ts-and-figures
https://www.healthawareness.co.uk/ca...ses-the-facts/
- there's also a pdf if you want to download it - www.bhf.org.uk › research › bhf-cvd-statistics-uk-factsheet
:)

Those figures used to be far worse - thank goodness our knowledge is far more advanced than it was (and there are now treatments available..)

Thanks beat me to it.

BEVS Nov 13th 2020 5:36 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12935181)
what does it make you think?


It makes me think that the two do not correlate at all.

One is a new unleashed highly contagious disease which others can give you & which quick preventative measures & highlighting right here and now , right up there daily in your face, might be able to save people.

The other is a known issue (s) due to several factors, none of which are infectious.

The first needs quick reporting, highlighting and a mandate to keep on keeping on reminding people that there are quick easy steps to limit possible infection to oneself and others. It is fast spreading and so the need for this to be plastered everywhere , consistently.

The second with its risk factors has been known & publicised for many decades. Smoking. Alcohol. Overweight. Diet. Hereditary in some cases where the previous are not really a factor. Who doesn't know that smoking, drinking, diet, weight can lead to heart and circulatory issues. Everyone does even if in denial. We all know.

With this Covid19, it is hitting all ages and all people silently, invisibly and deadly. The youngest of which has been a newborn babe.

That is why the need to try and motivate people to understand what this virus can do and quickly . To keep plugging the message into deaf ears. The other message about heart disease , stroke, circulatory ldisease has been out there for many decades now and it is up to an individual if they take that on board or not. They kill themselves in that, not others.

Jingsamichty Nov 13th 2020 7:15 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
I think one of the key factors in the UK (and possibly also the US) death toll is just how unhealthy the majority of Brits are. Most are overweight, completely unfit, and exist on a diet of junk food. It really wouldn't take much to tip them over the edge into serious respiratory illness.

Shard Nov 13th 2020 10:41 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12935167)
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.

Heart disease is not infectious. Why do people not understand the concept of a virus ??

Shard Nov 13th 2020 10:44 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 12935220)
I think one of the key factors in the UK (and possibly also the US) death toll is just how unhealthy the majority of Brits are. Most are overweight, completely unfit, and exist on a diet of junk food. It really wouldn't take much to tip them over the edge into serious respiratory illness.

30% of deaths under 49 had no pre-existing conditions (Sky News) not sure if that included obesity or not.


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