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Jsmth321 Nov 16th 2020 6:23 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12936411)
IMHO - Anyone who hasn't had their normal childhood vaccinations (chickenpox, measles etc) should not be allowed the COVID jab until everything else is up to date.

Additionally, flat earthers should also be denied this vaccine.

I never had chicken pox vaccine, but then it didn't exist in my childhood. :lol: (well technically it did since I was a teenager when it became available in the US, but I had chicken pox in 1985 or 1986 so I didn't need the vaccine.)

I had measles and such, just can't prove it since my parents lost the records with time, and I would imagine there are others like me who were vaccinated but just can't prove it, so that would then cause troubles, and put more strain on the system as people would then have to go be vaccinated against those first, doesn't seem very feasible really.

Siouxie Nov 16th 2020 8:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12936411)
IMHO - Anyone who hasn't had their normal childhood vaccinations (chickenpox, measles etc) should not be allowed the COVID jab until everything else is up to date.

Additionally, flat earthers should also be denied this vaccine.

There weren't any childhood vaccinations when I was growing up - apart from polio vaccine on a sugar lump - so I shouldn't be allowed it then, according to you - yet I am in several of the high risk categories.

I have had measles, german measles, chicken pox, mumps (twice), scarlet fever, scarletina, whooping cough and dozens of bouts of what they now call 'strep throat' ROFL ... how DID I survive!!!

:blah: :hysterical:

Danny B Nov 16th 2020 9:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12936416)
I never had chicken pox vaccine, but then it didn't exist in my childhood. :lol: (well technically it did since I was a teenager when it became available in the US, but I had chicken pox in 1985 or 1986 so I didn't need the vaccine.)

I had measles and such, just can't prove it since my parents lost the records with time, and I would imagine there are others like me who were vaccinated but just can't prove it, so that would then cause troubles, and put more strain on the system as people would then have to go be vaccinated against those first, doesn't seem very feasible really.



Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12936464)
There weren't any childhood vaccinations when I was growing up - apart from polio vaccine on a sugar lump - so I shouldn't be allowed it then, according to you - yet I am in several of the high risk categories.

I have had measles, german measles, chicken pox, mumps (twice), scarlet fever, scarletina, whooping cough and dozens of bouts of what they now call 'strep throat' ROFL ... how DID I survive!!!

:blah: :hysterical:

My comments were mainly directed at parents who refuse to vaccinate their children, aka anti-vaxxers. Not for people who can't find their vaccination certificate from the 80's.

Having said that, If adults have gone to the trouble to book a COVID jab and already have their sleeves rolled up, there is no harm in getting a few more extra jabs at the same time.


Zoe Bell Nov 16th 2020 10:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Exactly the wonderful thing about those vaccines that weren’t available during your childhood is that they are available now

last week I got my Tdap done because dr and I weren’t sure if my tetanus was up to date . Last year I got the MMR because it wasn’t available to me in childhood and I was concerned about local measles outbreak

if you are high risk enough to be first in line for Covid vaccine then you should definitely be up to date on all the others

as for the “ well how did I survive , lol!!! Argument, the point is a hell of people didn’t !!! 1 inn6 people will survive a game of Russian roulette, that’s a lousy argument in favour of playing it”

Jsmth321 Nov 16th 2020 11:13 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12936480)
My comments were mainly directed at parents who refuse to vaccinate their children, aka anti-vaxxers. Not for people who can't find their vaccination certificate from the 80's.

Having said that, If adults have gone to the trouble to book a COVID jab and already have their sleeves rolled up, there is no harm in getting a few more extra jabs at the same time.


I was just trying to be lighthearted.... ;)

Like I said I have all the childhood ones except chicken pox but I had the chicken pox so by the time the vaccine was available, I was not in need of it.

I've asked doctors over the years if I should redo the childhood vaccines since I lack records, but they have said that unless I need proof, and I know I was vaccinated, no need to redo them.

The ones they can do titer tests for I did have those done, and immunity was confirmed for those.




Jsmth321 Nov 16th 2020 11:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Over the last 3 days (BC doesn't report on weekends, so last update was Friday afternoon) 1,959 new cases, and 9 deaths.

654 cases from Friday to Saturday while 659 cases were reported from Saturday to Sunday, and 646 from Sunday to Monday. (previous daily high was 617)

Record high of 181 in hospital, 57 in ICU, highest ICU count since April.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7466206/b...e-november-16/

(+455) cases in the Vancouver Coastal Health region

(+1361) cases in the Fraser Health region

(+87) cases in the Interior Health region

(+41) cases in the Island Health region

(+14) cases in the Northern Health region

(+1) cases of people who reside outside of Canada

Gozit Nov 17th 2020 12:32 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
I'm not necessarily high risk but I will want to get the vaccine ASAP as i'm sure it will be required for quarantine and test free travel.

If they offered an incentive for getting the jab (ie if you get the jab, no need to wear a mask if you carry your OHIP card saying you got it, etc) i'm sure you'd have most of the population jabbed up in no time.

*Obviously I know the research on the vaccine and whether it prevents spread will render this impossible but it's a nice thought.

Siouxie Nov 17th 2020 1:20 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12936480)
My comments were mainly directed at parents who refuse to vaccinate their children, aka anti-vaxxers. Not for people who can't find their vaccination certificate from the 80's.

Having said that,

If adults have gone to the trouble to book a COVID jab and already have their sleeves rolled up, there is no harm in getting a few more extra jabs at the same time
.

Why would anyone get vaccinated against diseases they have already had? (there will be countless numbers of people like myself.. 'my Generation', - hate to admit it but I was born many years before the 80's! LOL)

Not everyone who hasn't had their child vaccinated are anti vaxxers though. For example, when my son was a baby he had the first shot of 3 in 1 and had a very bad reaction - his skin looked like leather\and he developed chronic allergies requiring daily medication for 9 years, caused by the triple vaccine and a hereditary reactive gene according to both the paediatrician and the top specialist we saw. Both of them told me that he shouldn't have the '3 in 1' Measles, Mumps. Rubella' vaccine as we have asthma and allergies in the family!
To put your mind at ease he did have them as separate innoculations at a later date, but the vaccination record wouldn't be approved of now, because it wasn't up to 'standard' - and it would be impossible to obtain a copy of, as we lived in Hong Kong at the time.
:D

Danny B Nov 17th 2020 2:07 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12936536)
Why would anyone get vaccinated against diseases they have already had? (there will be countless numbers of people like myself.. 'my Generation', - hate to admit it but I was born many years before the 80's! LOL)

The idea of immunization is to protect against illness caused by infection with micro-organisms . If people turning up for the COVID shot cannot prove evidence of immunity, what's the big deal of having another shot? Like I said, if I was in charge I would implement this rule mainly for the children of anti-vaxxers. But an anti-vaxxer turning up for a COVID shot is a complete oxymoron anyway. We shall see if they are selective anti-vaxxers.

I'd probably let off old fogeys like you :lol:

Danny B Nov 17th 2020 3:17 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
See...Trump was almost right.

Mouthwash can kill coronavirus within 30 seconds.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...snt-sf-twitter


spouse of scouse Nov 17th 2020 3:37 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12936711)
See...Trump was almost right.

Mouthwash can kill coronavirus within 30 seconds.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...snt-sf-twitter

Don't swallow or inject it though!

Revin Kevin Nov 17th 2020 3:39 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12936546)
The idea of immunization is to protect against illness caused by infection with micro-organisms . If people turning up for the COVID shot cannot prove evidence of immunity, what's the big deal of having another shot? Like I said, if I was in charge I would implement this rule mainly for the children of anti-vaxxers. But an anti-vaxxer turning up for a COVID shot is a complete oxymoron anyway. We shall see if they are selective anti-vaxxers.

I'd probably let off old fogeys like you :lol:

For the vaccine to be effective it needs to be given to as many people as possible so really you should let off the antis as well as the old fogeys!


Revin Kevin Nov 17th 2020 3:42 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12936711)
See...Trump was almost right.

Mouthwash can kill coronavirus within 30 seconds.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...snt-sf-twitter

It was said ages ago that a gargle with salt water is beneficial - and cheaper!

spouse of scouse Nov 17th 2020 3:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12936719)
It was said ages ago that a gargle with salt water is beneficial - and cheaper!

Do you know my mum? There's nothing that can't be fixed by gargling with salt water :lol:

caretaker Nov 17th 2020 5:17 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12936723)
Do you know my mum? There's nothing that can't be fixed by gargling with salt water :lol:

The Flying Doctor would say "Tell him to lay on his side and drink plenty of water, and I'll be there in a couple of hours."


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