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Old Nov 8th 2020, 7:02 pm
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I tend to focus on the more morbid stats (death rate) for exactly this reason, tests and infections are very hard to measure and compare. Hospital admissions seem to be a good measure too.
Trouble is with all stat, they are being counted differently - I tend to think a trending up or down of cases as being semi good at tracking a countries response, if no other variables change.

Would be good to have stats of deaths of folk with no co-morbidities, but think that might cause the governments a real headache.

Trouble is COVID ripping through a care home, hospice, or hospital may cause a huge spike in death rates - but doesn't tell you really how many folk have died prematurely as opposed to those that were already terminally ill and very close to end of life.

Likewise with the UK model - its apparently only counted if you tested positive within the last 28 days, so questionably someone on ventilator for 6 + weeks and then dying wouldn't count. But likewise you could be admitted to hospital with kidney failure, test positive whilst inside due an outbreak on the ward, remain asymptomatic to COVID, but die of kidney failure and end up with COVID being counted.

Big worry is what happens in the US now, their new case are growing at circa 25% per week, that's pre rally/protest/party and pre thanksgiving, could easily be seeing 250,000 new cases a day by mid-December, possibly sooner. Of course the question is will herd immunity be a thing, and how far off it are the they?

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Old Nov 8th 2020, 7:52 pm
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Yeah they do for the US. They don't break it down by province in Canada which is annoying.

If your curious about BC and want to do the math as of 4:30pm Friday BC has had 275 total deaths, population is 5 million.

Total cases 17,149
Thanks. I sometimes check the Gov Canada site which is extremely good.
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Old Nov 8th 2020, 8:42 pm
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I tend to focus on the more morbid stats (death rate) for exactly this reason, tests and infections are very hard to measure and compare. Hospital admissions seem to be a good measure too.
Here in New Brunswick our figures remain very low. There's been the usual "not enough testing" and claims that "the number of cases will be higher with more testing".

So there was a bit of an outbreak up on the border with Quebec. Miraculously it happened when the quarantine restrictions were lifted for people crossing that border and it's eased following reimposition of some of them. But that's another story.

A couple of weeks ago they ran a testing exercise over the weekend in that area. No referrals necessary, no questions to establish a need, just turn up and get tested.
2500 turned up and got tested. Way in excess of the norm for the whole province in this one small area. 2 positive results.

Of course it's entirely possible that anyone thinking their symptoms might be covid stayed away because if they really had it they may have to reveal how they'd broken regulations.
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Gift shop owner has turned part of his store into a "truth center" for COVID and asks people not to wear masks in his store and to think of the harm mask wearing may do to yourself or others.

Interior Health says they will send a public health officials will follow up with the owner, who also has no safety protocols in place and say's he has never been inspected, well I bet he is gonna see an inspection now.....
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Gift shop owner has turned part of his store into a "truth center" for COVID and asks people not to wear masks in his store and to think of the harm mask wearing may do to yourself or others.

Interior Health says they will send a public health officials will follow up with the owner, who also has no safety protocols in place and say's he has never been inspected, well I bet he is gonna see an inspection now.....
We love you and respectfully appeal, by way of 1000’s of research papers, that you consider the harm that you may be causing yourself and others, by way of wearing a mask. We therefore encourage that -
Mask wearing is prohibited in this establishment

He's a tad confused isn't he? He can't work out if he's respectfully appealing, encouraging, prohibiting, or just loving. Silly Twat Marketing 101.

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Old Nov 9th 2020, 3:13 pm
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Some great news this morning about a 90% effective vaccine being developed

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Some great news this morning about a 90% effective vaccine being developed
That is indeed good news but on the same day we hear that a new type of Covid has sprung up in Denmark!
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That is indeed good news but on the same day we hear that a new type of Covid has sprung up in Denmark!
I hate that they are culling millions of mink, because a mutant strain was found on a mink farm.
Denmark will cull all its mink - as many as 17 million - after a mutated form of coronavirus that can spread to humans was found on mink farms.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54818615
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That is indeed good news but on the same day we hear that a new type of Covid has sprung up in Denmark!
The 'Dane Flu' has a certain ring to it.
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Old Nov 9th 2020, 3:52 pm
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What does Denmark need 17 million mink for?
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What does Denmark need 17 million mink for?
Mink farming is a big industry in Denmark.

Around 60 mink equals one mink fur coat.

The mink were always going to be killed. The real tragedy is that they were bred at all for such a frivolous purpose.
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Wow. That's 283,000 coats worth of mink. I had no idea fur coats were still being produced in allegedly civilised societies.
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Wow. That's 283,000 coats worth of mink. I had no idea fur coats were still being produced in allegedly civilised societies.
Sickening, isn't it.
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Some great news this morning about a 90% effective vaccine being developed
Looks like they aim to apply for US approval by end of the month.

50 million could be produced by end of year and 1.3 billion by end of 2021.

UK ordered 40 million which is sufficient to cover 20 million people.

Boy does it ever have to be kept cold- "the vaccines must be kept at -80C temperatures."

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...anity-12128452



UK priority will be people who work and live in care homes followed by elderly and clinically vulnerable.







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Looks like they aim to apply for US approval by end of the month.

50 million could be produced by end of year and 1.3 billion by end of 2021.

UK ordered 40 million which is sufficient to cover 20 million people.

Boy does it ever have to be kept cold- "the vaccines must be kept at -80C temperatures."

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...anity-12128452



UK priority will be people who work and live in care homes followed by elderly and clinically vulnerable.
Same in Canada

Canada released guidance on COVID19 vaccine rollout, prioritizing:

1. Those at high risk of severe illness.

2. Those most likely to transmit to high-risk individuals & workers essential to maintaining the COVID19 response.

3. Other essential workers.

https://t.co/uOUy4BmcIR?amp=1
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