So in the unrestricted areas they can have a pint in front of them in a pub and in the restricted areas they can also have a pint in front of them in a pub - it just needs some food as well.
So that person's criticism that you can have a pie but not a pint is actually incorrect.

Here we had the outbreak at the special care home - residents/staff/close contacts - and a potential exposure in three places because one of the staff or close contacts had visited those three places when asymptomatic (and possibly not a carrier anyway, just someone self isolating because of the care home connection). Someone then complains that there were infections at those places and they're still open.
It's either people not reading or listening properly or just accepting what they hear without checking themselves.

I wouldn't hold my breath in anticipation of the borders reopening soon.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/trudeau-...drop-1.1508077

Or maybe they're just stupid?

Occam's razor should be our guide.

Record daily infections cropping up the world over, 9.00 pm curfews in several cities in France.

It's not going away.

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I read an article discussing that somewhere else (possibly CBC) about an hour ago - its the first time he has called out the US on its own as somewhere being unsafe for COVID (that I'm aware of at least)

Does that mean he may look to actually stick a middle finger up to trump and allows NZ/Aus etc in prior to the US??

Expect Britain will be back of the queue as we're in a mess I think, although I still don't really know.

The situation is worsening.

I read earlier of a "serious debate" as to whether a pastie would be considered a "substantial meal".

You have to wonder just what the powers that be are going to do next. Old Boris came under fire for the 10 pm curfew as it was not solving the issue at hand. He has constantly said he doesn't want another lock down and i'm sure France and Spain feel the same yet there is mounting pressure from other MP's to shut it all down. Labour have been very vocal about a total lock down and when we see people being interviewed on the street it amazes me how many will say things like "the government need to lock us all down and get firm with people" I wonder if they are living in some dream world where the government pays everyone to sit at home for as long as it takes and we all live happily ever after. Even the WHO have now come out and said lock downs are not the answer and they cause too many other issues. So what is the answer?
I sure as hell don't know

158 new cases in BC today. No deaths reported today. 84 in hospital with 24 in ICU

Most of the new cases are in Fraser Health.

I am increasingly thinking that the genie is out of the bottle and the only "sensible" option is to tell everyone to wear a mask, to SD, and to stay home as much as possible. .... Then remove all other restrictions. If you're stupid enough to crowd into a bar with 200 other people to watch a football game, or if you want to pile into a busy shop, or crowd into a train, then more fool you!

Black Friday could be interesting this year.

That is exactly what I was going to write. Consider your mask as a vaccine and remove the restrictions. It's a lose - lose situation whatever happens.

Keep people locked up all winter and people will die. Perhaps not from COVID, but other reasons.
Open up the economy and enforce masks and people will still die. Deaths here in my part of BC are very low, If I was a small business owner I'd be prepared to risk it.

I am in favour of keeping the OAP homes locked down though. Those poor buggers bear the brunt of this horrible virus.

A comical point of view from "an internet source" and i quote:

The average life expectancy in the UK is 81 years. The average age of death in people with Covid is 82.4 years. Covid — the illness you have to be dead to die of.

My nephew (In Scotland) and his wife now have covid. She is a teacher. Who would have thunk it.....

783 new cases yesterday and 5 deaths yesterday in Ontario. 239 in Toronto. 40,000 people tested.