Yes I agree, thats unfortunately where my problem is. I'm stuck in the middle.

My ex receives $1100 in allowance for the autistic child (now technically an adult), yes. That'll likely go up dramatically when her current funding application is processed. I don't see what that has to with my thinking the father in the thread header is a deadbeat. Please explain the connection.

btw, you say you raised a handicapped child without assistance as if it happened in the past, how come you are not still doing it, is the child still living and, if so, where is he or she?

Be that as it may, children make fathers poor. That's a central fact of western life. I don't see why he should be surprised.

It is not your right to know whether this child is still living or, if so, where he/she lives.

There is no real connection I was just puzzled by such a strong stance in this thread compared to previous musings and you tend to stand in judgement of others quite a bit. As I've said before, you're not always right,

It's not a right to know anything, nonetheless I'm curious has to how it can be that you are no longer raising the child. If the child lives and is in some form of government facility then you haven't raised him or her without assistance. If he or she grew, got a job and moved away, then the handicap couldn't have been very severe.

I do harshly criticize men who don't support their children. If you think I'm wrong then go ahead, make the case for letting the mother deal with the bills.

LMAO...you have got to be kidding. Canada is filled with disproportionate numbers of people like this; you just missed them at first glance...

I expect you're thinking of the people in the housing projects and, yes, there are lots of them but Canada also has provinces with little work and a tradition of living on pogey (Newfoundland for example) and a native population on reserves or on the tundra that depends on the government for a supply of substances to abuse. Then there are the MPs and senators. All in all a vast number of people sponging off the taxes paid by the toiling immigrants.

Agreed. It's why I laugh when I read these sanctimonious posts about leaving the UK benefit culture, spongers etc. I think it is almost worse here, because I do not recall seeing quite the level of poverty among benefit claimants in the UK that I see on a daily basis here. As someone has said before, people coming here with £ in their pockets do not have to live with the effects of social deprivation. Most of these people cannot ever buy a better standard of (materialistic) life like the average UK immigrant can.

I feel the same!!

Also in the UK you cannot take an absent father to court for child payments and if the wonderful (NOT) CSA decide not to continue fighting your corner, what then ? You work all the hours you can to support your family and move on, until eventually your in a position to sell your home and make the huge step in emigrating.

So yes I am cynical of the benefit system in the Uk, but there will always be people who will work the system, do they have a better life than me and my kids, IMO, NO because we can hold our heads up high and hand on heart say we did it without working the system!
This is only my opinion/outlook on it and guess what we're still smiling and I'm proud of my kids and how we pulled through without support from their biological father.

Rosie

I thought that was their point


Actually the people in big trouble in the UK include pensioners, rural seasonal workers etc. Not seen data on how the UK compares directly to Canada, but there are certainly concerns across Europe about the growing "underclass".

[QUOTE=dbd33;5288945]It's not a right to know anything, nonetheless I'm curious has to how it can be that you are no longer raising the child. If the child lives and is in some form of government facility then you haven't raised him or her without assistance. If he or she grew, got a job and moved away, then the handicap couldn't have been very severe.



As I said before, none of your business. Apart from my previous reference to having a handicapped child, I certainly am not about to discuss such personal stuff on a forum or bring my child into any kind of argument. You can be as curious as you like. Your comments are very distasteful, especially in demanding to know if my child is still alive.

Is that really true about the pensioners? I ask because my dear old Mum once said that she was getting more money than she needed, and was too old to enjoy it! I haven't lived in the UK for many years, so I don't know too much about the pension system.

Last winter rising fuel prices were very much a concern for those on a fixed income. I guess your mother is in the happy 80% rather than the unfortunate 20%.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6904422.stm

http://www.helptheaged.org.uk/en-gb/...ts/default.htm
http://www.helptheaged.org.uk/en-gb/...default.htm#we

http://www.ageconcern.org.uk/AgeConc...er_poverty.asp

He's a deadbeat? you must be joking! of course I agree he has a responsibility to care and pay towards the up keep of his kids, which he does, he also takes the older child who is not his and treats him the same cause he's a decent guy. My problem it the only person I see getting a nice little life out of this is his ex.

She is being discouraged from finding full time work (like many) by the way the funding works, always manages a holiday (on her own) etc etc which is a lot more than he can afford. You seem to think that he should struggle and she should be kept in far better life style.

Ok. I have got to add to this. Me & my OH both work. I full-time, him 2 part-time jobs. We have nothing left at the end of the month. The family next door, parents with 2 kids don't work and haven't for about 4 years, they have had in the last 2 years: new car, conservatory, new lawn, gym in the garage, new sofa. This is just what we know of.
When the daughter asked my OH why we haven't got a new car. BTW our's is a rubbish astra that is falling to bits, he said we needed to save up for one. She said (and bless her) well we've got a new car, daddy had the money and we didn't go on holiday this year. (We haven't been on holiday for 3 years now) The benefit system helping those who truly need it. There is no incentive to work when you get enough to live on and buy new things.