No

But you can't live life banning everything that is not good for the wider society can you, eh: hot air balloons, what use are they, the whole of society can't use one, they are no good for public transport, some one could get killed in one, yet we have them. Why not ban them, if we just save one life then it must be worth it.

Yeh that is all bull crap nonsense but you could argue about banning anything. It's not the answer is it! There needs to be another plan, a plan b.

Hot air balloons, cars, etc aren't designed with the sole purpose of killing people.

You not getting the point.

Keep guns, ban guns, DOES NOT MATTER, people will go mental and kill other people, period. They will find a way, car, knife, bomb anything.

This nutter killed all his family too, I think, then himself. Sounds like he was very determined to do harm to others.

A gun just makes it very convenient and efficient, right?

I agree yes convenience is a fact, he Did have to go buy the guns and bullets though, but yes it is a easy way. So ban guns and nobody will ever get killed ever again. Great!

I believe it's a difference in attitude. In the US, the attitude seems to be that they have the right to own guns regardless of a need, whereas Canada seems to be that guns are a necessity and therefore mostly used responsibly.

Again, it seems to be a culture thing.


No-one forces people to take drugs or smoke cigarettes.!

I'll assume that's sarcasm.

I understood your point, but the logic is quite simple: Less guns = less people dead. It's not no guns = no people dead.

Man goes crazy with car:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20014598
13 injured, 1 dead.

Man goes crazy with gun:
27 people dead.

So, are you saying that if guns were banned, this loon would not have used a gun.?

How many shooting in Toronto this year, in a country that has no guns. How did that happen. Uhm? Guns banned, yet guns are used? OMG how?

Loons will find guns in a none gun environment, like in the UK. Yes it will be a bit of hassle, but worth it in the mind of a mad man.

Just saying that yes you have a valid point, guns are bad, but a ban won't stop the miss use of guns. Education may?

Probably. It's likely that his gun was legal.

Oh, Canada is gun free now is it?

When was the last time somebody did this with a gun in the UK? Also gun crime is falling in the UK.

It doesn't matter if it's hassle or not. The fact is that less guns = less people killed. You seem to be disputing this, are you?

(I'm not advocating gun control in the US because it's pointless. Occasional incidents like this is simply the price they are willing to pay for their constitutional right to bear arms.)

You really think a 20 year old from a little rural town would be able to get three weapons, large capacity magazines and that amount of ammunition on the black market?

Education may help, but I suggest the following.

For anyone found carrying a firearm not licensed to themselves
- Minimum 5 yrs in prison.

Found guilty of causing injury of any severity with a firearm
- Minimum 10 years prison.

Found guilty of manslaughter using a firearm not registered to themselves
- Minimum 20 years in prison.

Found guilty of murder using a firearm not registered to themselves
- Minimum 30 yrs / Mandatory life sentence in prison.

Same charges using blade weapon instead of firearm. Half the above sentences.

Each sentence per charge convicted on, to run back-to back with no parole.

No bail for anyone arrested on firearms charges, and limited bail if any for those arrested on bladed weapon charges.

The guns were bought legally by his mother and were already in her possession. So the rules on gun ownership made it pretty easy for him

Not unless he had the money. If you have the money you can buy anything.