Originally Posted by iaink

"These neighborhoods are our neighborhoods and these children are our children. And we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics."


Good luck to him, I hope he has the resolve to make something happen, but with partizan politics and gun possession an article of US faith Im not holding my breath.

I think fixing the US fiscal issues is probably an easier task, but he's ultimately fairly powerless on both fronts. He does seem a fundamentally decent bloke though and I hope he can make a difference.

My kids will be getting extra hugs. I cant imagine being a parent in Newtown tonight. I dont want to.

Originally Posted by jimmydean

Totally with you on this..........Obama has a chance to change US History forever.. not sure he will be able to do it.....

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian

So you didnt read the CBC article in that link then. I guess the officer should have just accepted his answer then and allowed him to go up the road.
BTW I didnt initially bring up this to show how or how not important my job is. As highlighted in the RCMP report a lot (vast majority) of murders committed in Canada by handgun use are from those hanguns smuggled into Canada. There again in your world this is not a problem that needs to be dealt with either in the US or Canada.
Yes this shooting happened in the US far away from the border but whats the betting if this had occurred in Canada what chances do you think that the firearms involved would have been smuggled into Canada or would they have nipped over to the nearest farmhouse and nicked a couple of the farmers rifles/shotguns to carry out an act such as this.
You carry on reading over your financial reports and I will carry on doing my job.

Originally Posted by Alan2005

Of course, you're right. The only reason this doesn't happen in Canada is because of the diligence of Canadian border guards such as yourself confiscating all those guns.

Originally Posted by Alan2005

Of course, you're right. The only reason this doesn't happen in Canada is because of the diligence of Canadian border guards such as yourself confiscating all those guns.

Originally Posted by magnumpi

Stop being a prick and stay on topic. This is a tradgic time in history and you are trying to wind up a border guard. Get a ****ing life pal!!!

Originally Posted by Oink

What power apart from some persuasive ones from the so-called bully pulpit, does he have to change anything?

Originally Posted by Alan2005

I'm not trying to wind him up. I'm trying to get him to stop talking about his job for once. Maybe you think it's ok to compare it to smuggling booze, but I think it's kind of crass.

Originally Posted by mandymoochops

lol by suggesting that he confiscates lots of guns Good luck with that one!!!!

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian

Scenario with a normal traveller just last week albeit not guns involved.
Hi you have indicated on your declaration form you have $400 worth of goods with you what sort of goods are they.
Oh just clothing and tourist souveneirs.
Any alcohol or tobacco products?
Just one bottle and 1 carton.
Open up suitcase mmmm 4 bottles of rum and 6 x cartons.

Originally Posted by jimmydean

Show some leadership and call a national plebiscite on gun ownership in US or each state needs to be allowed to do so. Bypass the NRA and politicians if they haven't got the guts. Like the UK, introduce stringent background checks, storage, ban automatic weapons and handguns

Start off by Re-enacting the assault-weapons ban which expired in 2004. The NRA has so far refused to allow Congress to consider its renewal. Who are these people !!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Alan2005

Here you go.

Originally Posted by magnumpi

Ok sorry for the rant, it just seemed just out of contex, it's such a horrid thing to happen. :@(

Like the saying goes "Guns don't kill people, people KILL people"

Originally Posted by jimmydean

Show some leadership and call a national plebiscite on gun ownership in US or each state needs to be allowed to do so. Bypass the NRA and politicians if they haven't got the guts. Like the UK, introduce stringent background checks, storage, ban automatic weapons and handguns

Start off by Re-enacting the assault-weapons ban which expired in 2004. The NRA has so far refused to allow Congress to consider its renewal. Who are these people !!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Alan2005

I'm not trying to wind him up. I'm trying to get him to stop talking about his job for once. Maybe you think it's ok to compare killing kids to smuggling booze, but I think it's kind of crass.

Originally Posted by iaink

For a smart guy you seem to have missed the point that you dont know what you will find once you start to look on spec. All you can guarantee is that if you dont look you wont find anything.

Not sure myself how that fits into this thread, but please dont play the fool, its really not your style.