Thread for 2231-79 (c# specialist)Skill Assessment is done but Application not lodged
 

Hello guys,

I am opening a thread to invite all 2231-79 (c# specialist) guys who are done with skill assessment before 8th of May 2010 but haven't lodged the application with DIAC yet.

Please discuss any updates or thoughts about the future of 2231-79 (c# specialist) for ambiguities like...

1) Future of this ASCO code as par new SOL

2) validity of skill assessment which is already done (like would we need to re-assess as par new SOL etc)


This thread will be useful in grouping 2231-79 (c# specialist) guys for sharing thoughts and experiences for the future of their VISA application which is yet to be made.

Thank you.

Re: Thread for 2231-79 (c# specialist)Skill Assessment is done but Application not lo
 

I have merged your thread with the others running on 2231-79. Please don't try and fragment the forum into individual codes - we will get swamped with a mass of very short threads :)

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

Hi!

I am currently being assessed by the ACS for Network Security, which is no longer on the new SOL. However, I believe that I may fall under one of the new areas (e.g. ICT Business Analyst - I have all the skills listed on the description).

Does anyone know whether it would be possible to get ACS to change the code under which I'm being assessed? Even if I got a valid 'network security' assessment at this point it would be useless to me.

Many thanks!

PalmTree2k

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

How old ASCO codes would be handled by ACS is still not announced. SO please wait and keep your fingers crossed.

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

:fingerscrossed:

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

Hi Guys


I got below reply from Vetassess:

"VETASSESS will not be issuing Skills Assessments in ANZSCO until the 1st of July, 2010. The Department of Immigration and Citizenship (DIAC) have advised that they will be publishing an ASCO-ANZSCO mapping table which will detail the conversion of occupations from ASCO to ANZSCO. Generally speaking, if an occupation has a direct match from ASCO to ANZSCO and VETASSESS are still the assessing authority for that occupation, applicants will not require a reassessment under the ANZSCO code"

Looks like a mapping between ASCO-ANZCO would be published soon :)

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

Very useful and relaxing news :) I hope the same happens in case of ACS.

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

I found a document from a link someone (wikp) kindly posted on POI that breaks down the ANZCO.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/subsc...06.2009&Latest

For anyone in the 2231-79 groups this might be of some interest. I myself received +ve assessment from ACS as 2231-79 .NET Technologies Specialist so I was interested in

261312 Developer Programmer

from the the new SOL.

Under this classification I find...

Alternative Titles

* Applications Developer
* ICT Developer
* ICT Programmer

And specialisations in this this group are...

* Communications Programmer (Systems)
* Database Developer
* Database Programmer (Systems)
* Network Programmer
* Software Developer
* Software Programmer

I may be being optomistic, but surely .NET Technologies Specialist will just transfer straight into 261312 without need for re-assessment.

When ACS summarised my experience in the letter I received from them, they actually used the term 'Software Developer'. Any thoughts anyone?

Cheers

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

Unlikely to be that simple, WA's mapping table would have you as a 261212 which is not on the new SOL list so you would lose out on a direct mapping, maybe reassessment in the more general developer category would be the way for you. Also ACS is notorious for just doing their own thing.

ACS and DIAC don't seem to talk much as we could see with the MODL/CSL changes where IT applicants or at least the way in which the CSL, MODL and IT specialisations would interact were not fully considered and the ACS was very late to the party with explanations and clarifications, I worry that the ACS may not be able to resolve this without some pain for applicants. .


Information and Communications Technology


1224 Mgr - IT Services / Chief Information Officer ---135111 Chief information officer
2231 Team Leader - Information Systems >>>135199 ICT managers nec
2231 Team Leader - IT Procurement >>>135199 ICT managers nec
2231 Team Leader - IT Client Service >>> 135199 ICT managers nec
2231 Team Leader - IT Infrastructure >>> 135199 ICT managers nec
2299 IT Systems Training Coordinator >>> 223211 ICT Trainer
2231 On-Line Systems Developer >>> 261112 Systems Analyst
2231 Net Developer >>> 261212 Web Developer
3294 Business Systems Administrator >>> 262113 Systems Administrator
2231 Core Network Engineer >>> 263111 Computer network and systems engineer
2231 Core Systems Engineer >>> 263111 Computer network and systems engineer
2231 IT Senior Incident Support Officer >>> 263212 ICT support engineer
2231 Designer of On-line systems >>> 261112 Systems Analyst
2231 IT Support Engineer >>> 313111 Hardware technician
5999 On-line Support Services Engineer >>> 313112 ICT Customer support officer

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

.Net Developer =/= Web Developer

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

WA think it does, my point is that the mapping (when DIAC get round to producing it)will not be perfect and that this may cause problems for people who already have assesments or indeed those preparing paperwork for assesments may need to focus on different areas of their skillsets in order to get a positive assesment suitible for GSM

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

The biggest problem with this is that DIAC has never carefully assessed IT occupations before but now they will, and I think they will assess many Java and .Net developers as working as web developers for certain periods, and if those periods coincide with the threshold recent work experience requirement (one year SOL work experience in the two years prior to application) or the specific work experience requirement (ie for the points test) then there will be problems. There may also be problems for 2231-79 Oracle people who are assessed by case officers as working as DBAs. Many 2231-79 Security people are also in trouble.

Cheers,

George Lombard

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

.Net and J2EE specialists are most of the times Web Developers. I do not see any complications at least for these two categories. My Opinion.

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

Exactly. The point is that Web Developers are a separate occupation in the ANZSCO, so not included in the new SOL.

Cheers,

George Lombard

Re: ASCO 2231-79
 

Yep, and the same for Network and security specialisations, there seems to be a disconnect between DIAC and the ACS, I question if DIAC fully thought through the implications of instant revocation of MODL on IT applicants and there seem to be a few glaring omissions from the new SOL, though this could be by design I suppose.

On the other hand you could argue that the ACS had become a MODL mill over the last couple of years and that most applicants do not find work in their assesed field.