Merged threads on ASCO code confusion
 

Hi All,

I would appreciate if someone can clear this confusion.

I have my skill assessment done in ASCO 2231-79 (specialisng in c#), but I am confused where does it matches to an ANZCO code in newly announced SOL?

Also, if it exists in new SOL, do I need to do re-assessment according to new ANZCO?

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

I did some research on this issue, and come to know that following ANZCO code matches to my ASCO (which i recieved in my skill assessment result)

261111 ICT Business Analyst 2231-79 p Computing Professionals nec

261111 ANZCO also happens to be present in the newly announed SOL.

So does it means that me and others having 2231-79 ASCO in their skill assessment are in new SOL?

Also, what about skill assessment, would that be needed to be done again for new ANZCO?


Many thanks for reading and replying.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Only difference i see in the new SOL is, they have removed specialization and have put general occupations in the list which is good. Software Engineer/Programmer Developer/Analyst Programmer are the same programming positions with the difference in experience. Now those software developers can also apply who works on the technologies which were not listed before.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

What about 2231-79 (CISSP/Network Security)? Is it removed?

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Looks like it is gone now.

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"261111 ICT Business Analyst 2231-79 p Computing Professionals nec"

Where did you find this?

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

ANZSCO First Edition to ASCO Second Edition Correspondence Tables:

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/subsc...09.2006&Latest


ANZSCO First Edition Alternative View Information and Communication Technology :

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/subsc...09.2006&Latest


::banghead: Looks like I'm out of the New SOL and may be out of the process. Only hope that I can see is state migration plan (which yet to come) and be on the states occupation list

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Dear,

What about System Programmers ASCO code 2231-19, where it will be converted in new SOL, pls help me....

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

I have asked ACS for the same. lets see what they reply

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Hi,
What about 2231-79 Computing Professionals Nec (.NET Specialist)? Where they match on ANZSCO code?

Please advice.

Thanks..

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Hi oliman,
Can you please tell me about the ASCO Code mentioned in your ACS Approval letter. Also what is your specialization?
I have ACS Approval based on ASCO Code : 2231-79(.Net specialist) just like shafaqat has.

Which anzsco code matches to 2231-79(.NET Specialist) ?

Please advice.
Thanks..

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Hi guys,

I think, all those have not applied with DIAC yet, should forget what was there on old SOL and start building their cases as per the new SOL, including the fresh assessment from professional bodies (even if they have positive skills assessment or some assessment in process).

Its difficult to compose afresh but the sooner its done, the sooner you will get the visa.

Regards,

Fred, F.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Mr f4fred, fo not post your own speculations and guesses unless you have concrete and authentic support to your comments! You are causing confusion amongst many of us.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Oliman:
Please advice me on my above question I asked to you.


Thanks..

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Please read George Lambord reply here

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668478

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

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Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Dear Oliman,

I made no speculation rather all I saw at DIAC. I try to convince you.

As new SOL applies to new applicants hence any one with a +ve or under process assessment for an old SOL occupation cant lodge an application with DIAC.

This way, anyone who has a +ve or under process assessment for an old SOL occupation has to find suitable occupation in new SOL and get re-assessed to apply with DIAC against some new SOL occupation.

So what is confusing and what is speculation?

Its hard to digest this fact but this is a fact any way. I am not saying those with an old SOL occupation have missed the boat, rather I am saying, to leave the old SOL discussion and prepare for the new one.

Please point out if you still think I was speculating or confusing.

Regards,

Fred, F.

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Dear f4fred,

Thank you for explaining yourself. As far as I can see, you are using your own justification on considering skill assessment to be invalid which were done for old SOL occupations. You still don't have any official statement to support your comments.

What will actually happen in this situation will be further clarified by either DIAC or some registered agent.

Regards

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@Oliman,

This is very important, where did you see 261111 being equal to 2231-79 nec ?

Looks like 2232-79 are screwed !

Cheers,

TAA

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

I compared 261111 being equal to 2231-79 from following Excel file which is attached with this post.

And I found that file from following URL.

http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]?opendocument

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

@Oliman,

FYI, I was the one who found out that link and posted it here on BE.

BUT the fact remains, it has 2231 mapped to 261111 but no 2231-79.

I think George Lombard's is right, there is more clarification on its way from DIAC reagarding ICT.

Cheers,

TAA

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

These are stressful times.. I could hardly sleep last night.. Just the thought of letting it all slip after so much hard work is just plain unacceptable...

But one must not loose hope.. Knowing that there are so many like me out here is really comforting.

Thanks BE,

Cheers,

TAA

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Foha2012,

pay more attention and look again at the excel file under the sheet name "Table 1". At row 441, it has following entry.

261111 ICT Business Analyst 2231-79 p Computing Professionals nec

this entry exists under sheet name "Table 2" as well in the excel file.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

How about network security where does it belongs??

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@Oliman,

You are the man !. It is there, I can see it.. Its a partial match (p).

So what does that mean? I dont have to go to ACS again ?. would my current ACS assessment valid for this new code aswell ?.

I would appreciate if anyone can give me a factual answer.

There might be hope after all....

Cheers,

TAA

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

You seem to be panic Foha2012, just calm down and think positive.

About re-assessment question, I have send an email to ACS authorities for the clarification of skill assessment letter validity. I think they themselves rely on further clarification for DIAC. Till then, lets wait for some authentic news from DIAC or a registered agent.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

@Oliman,

Thanks dude,

Cheers,

TAA

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Guys keep fingure crossed.

As its new SOL bumped out without MODL and CSL , why dont you guys debate about new MODL and CSL , did you guys ever find specialized category in old SOL no never but in MODL and CSL.

What about new MODL and CSL why it is not been published yet?

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@Sufiyan,

Dude, its still early days, let the seniors comprehend the situation, they will advice us accordingly. Just wait a little.

Cheers,

TAA

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

ASCO 2231-79 included per ASCO definition:

2231-79 Computing Professionals nec

This occupation group covers Computing Professionals not elsewhere classified.

Occupations in this group include:
Computer Analyst
Computer Scientist
Computing Tester
Database Analyst
Local Area Network (LAN) Controller

New ANZSCO codes are:

261111 ICT business analyst
261112 Systems analyst
261311 Analyst programmer
261312 Developer programmer
261313 Software engineer
263311 Telecommunications engineer

so therefore:

Computer Scientist most likely maps to 261313 Software Engineer
Computing Tester perhaps 261112
Computer Analyst and Database Analyst most likely to 261313
Local Area Network (LAN) Controller ?? perhaps 263311

So everyone relax, it is more in semantics than substance, most, if not all sub-occupations are still there.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Hi

I think "261312 Developer programmer and "261313 Software engineer" will cover most of IT development related specializations.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

if you take the time to look at the excel spread sheet, you notice the following:
261111 ICT Business Analyst 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
261399 Software and Applications Programmers nec 2231-79 p Computing Professionals nec
262111 Database Administrator 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer 2231-79 p Computing Professionals nec
263112 Network Administrator 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
263213 ICT Systems Test Engineer 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
263299 ICT Support and Test Engineers nec 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec

also the spread sheet was written in 2006, hence no reference to spelization

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

wookie i got +ve assesment before the new SOL for the ASCO code 2231-79 (Oracle Specialist) and i got that assesment as an Oracle DBA.

The worrying matter for me that they only showed up with the following code.

261111 ICT business analyst
261112 Systems analyst
261311 Analyst programmer
261312 Developer programmer
261313 Software engineer
263311 Telecommunications engineer
263312 Telecommunications network engineer

Where do i lie within the above categories? Please tell me , am losing my heart.

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Hi All,

I have been reading on the new SOL's mapping to 2231-79; As mentioned by George and many others, it seems quite vague on how this would map into the new ANZCO code; DIAC does need to clarify.

I am trying to comprehend the worst case scenario for myself, and I have a few questions specific to my situation now:

We are assessed as '2231-79 (java/j2ee)'. We have a SS grant from SA; We have lodged GSM 175 in March and it is in queue now.

Assuming the worst case that 2231-79 specializations do not map into any of the new ANZCO codes (I know I am being far-fatched here...)

i. Are we impacted at all by the new SOL, since DIAC seems to say that existing applns wont be impacted? Specifically, if our application is still in queue for process by 1-July, is there any way that it would be considered out-of-new-SOL, and so non-eligible for independent PR?

ii. Is there a possibility that even if we are not directly impacted, it might go into non-priority; DIAC might say that 'you are non-new-SOL, so your priority becomes 7'?

Thanks to all of you for all your useful inputs, and looking for your valuable opinion....

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

the specializations are a relick of the modl.. it could be possible you might fall under :
261312 Systems analyst
261313 Software engineer

for example i would of fall under these due to be being a data arc

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

But 261312 Systems analyst and 261313 Software engineer are pretty apart from Database Administrator.

How can you justify yourself to fall under 261312 Systems analyst
and 261313 Software engineer being a data arc?

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hons degree in computer science
current duties for the last four years

data modeling
gathering requiremnts
interviewing clients
uml modeling
process modeling
testing PL/SQL: Functions and procedures to automate common tasks
Designing data dimensions and fact tables using snow flake data model
Designing materialized views using a star model
Researching ETL tools and using them to create the data warehouse
Designing Data management life cycle policies
Analysis and evolution of the architecture of the OLTP database
Technical survey and researching new database technologies

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dont mistaken it , alls these not relate to 261312 Systems analyst and 261313Software engineer, as my responsibilities doesnt lies too

1)backup and recovery
2)performance and tuning
3)database creating updating
4)disaster recovery plan
5)capacity planning
.
.
.
blah blah.

i was hanging 2 years before as a software engineer but for last two years as a DBA.Repenting myself , though in my new organization i am also performing my responsibilities as a S/W engineer like creating packages,procedures,function, modules implementation, gap analysis but all these are secondary , my primary reponsibilities are DBA oriented and i am appointed as a DBA here.

:( getting my nerves down.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

according to the new codes my duties are broken up like this:
Database designer(new codes declares this as Software Engineer)
261313 Software Engineer "Software Architect
Software Designer" "Database Designer Systems Architect"

data modeling
testing PL/SQL: Functions and procedures to automate common tasks
Technical survey and researching new database technologies
Designing data dimensions and fact tables using snow flake data model
Designing materialized views using a star model
Researching ETL tools and using them to create the data warehouse


SYstem analysis duties
gathering requiremnts
interviewing clients
uml modeling
process modeling
Designing Data management life cycle policies
Analysis and evolution of the architecture of the OLTP database

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

how will i makeup my position wookie for 261312 Systems analyst and 261313 Software engineer :)?

you are going to think i m a hard crusted old fool SOL DBA :).Its really weird for me that when there are software engineer there would not be DBA.