Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Hi

I think "261312 Developer programmer and "261313 Software engineer" will cover most of IT development related specializations.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

if you take the time to look at the excel spread sheet, you notice the following:
261111 ICT Business Analyst 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
261399 Software and Applications Programmers nec 2231-79 p Computing Professionals nec
262111 Database Administrator 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
263111 Computer Network and Systems Engineer 2231-79 p Computing Professionals nec
263112 Network Administrator 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
263213 ICT Systems Test Engineer 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec
263299 ICT Support and Test Engineers nec 2231-79 Computing Professionals nec

also the spread sheet was written in 2006, hence no reference to spelization

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

wookie i got +ve assesment before the new SOL for the ASCO code 2231-79 (Oracle Specialist) and i got that assesment as an Oracle DBA.

The worrying matter for me that they only showed up with the following code.

261111 ICT business analyst
261112 Systems analyst
261311 Analyst programmer
261312 Developer programmer
261313 Software engineer
263311 Telecommunications engineer
263312 Telecommunications network engineer

Where do i lie within the above categories? Please tell me , am losing my heart.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

Hi All,

I have been reading on the new SOL's mapping to 2231-79; As mentioned by George and many others, it seems quite vague on how this would map into the new ANZCO code; DIAC does need to clarify.

I am trying to comprehend the worst case scenario for myself, and I have a few questions specific to my situation now:

We are assessed as '2231-79 (java/j2ee)'. We have a SS grant from SA; We have lodged GSM 175 in March and it is in queue now.

Assuming the worst case that 2231-79 specializations do not map into any of the new ANZCO codes (I know I am being far-fatched here...)

i. Are we impacted at all by the new SOL, since DIAC seems to say that existing applns wont be impacted? Specifically, if our application is still in queue for process by 1-July, is there any way that it would be considered out-of-new-SOL, and so non-eligible for independent PR?

ii. Is there a possibility that even if we are not directly impacted, it might go into non-priority; DIAC might say that 'you are non-new-SOL, so your priority becomes 7'?

Thanks to all of you for all your useful inputs, and looking for your valuable opinion....

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

the specializations are a relick of the modl.. it could be possible you might fall under :
261312 Systems analyst
261313 Software engineer

for example i would of fall under these due to be being a data arc

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

But 261312 Systems analyst and 261313 Software engineer are pretty apart from Database Administrator.

How can you justify yourself to fall under 261312 Systems analyst
and 261313 Software engineer being a data arc?

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

hons degree in computer science
current duties for the last four years

data modeling
gathering requiremnts
interviewing clients
uml modeling
process modeling
testing PL/SQL: Functions and procedures to automate common tasks
Designing data dimensions and fact tables using snow flake data model
Designing materialized views using a star model
Researching ETL tools and using them to create the data warehouse
Designing Data management life cycle policies
Analysis and evolution of the architecture of the OLTP database
Technical survey and researching new database technologies

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

dont mistaken it , alls these not relate to 261312 Systems analyst and 261313Software engineer, as my responsibilities doesnt lies too

1)backup and recovery
2)performance and tuning
3)database creating updating
4)disaster recovery plan
5)capacity planning
.
.
.
blah blah.

i was hanging 2 years before as a software engineer but for last two years as a DBA.Repenting myself , though in my new organization i am also performing my responsibilities as a S/W engineer like creating packages,procedures,function, modules implementation, gap analysis but all these are secondary , my primary reponsibilities are DBA oriented and i am appointed as a DBA here.

:( getting my nerves down.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

according to the new codes my duties are broken up like this:
Database designer(new codes declares this as Software Engineer)
261313 Software Engineer "Software Architect
Software Designer" "Database Designer Systems Architect"

data modeling
testing PL/SQL: Functions and procedures to automate common tasks
Technical survey and researching new database technologies
Designing data dimensions and fact tables using snow flake data model
Designing materialized views using a star model
Researching ETL tools and using them to create the data warehouse


SYstem analysis duties
gathering requiremnts
interviewing clients
uml modeling
process modeling
Designing Data management life cycle policies
Analysis and evolution of the architecture of the OLTP database

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

how will i makeup my position wookie for 261312 Systems analyst and 261313 Software engineer :)?

you are going to think i m a hard crusted old fool SOL DBA :).Its really weird for me that when there are software engineer there would not be DBA.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

In my opinion you and sufyan_victoria fall under Software Engineer.

What they have done is actually (as I have said that in another thread) they have made IT codes independent of technology and have included ROLES in the list. Doesn't matter if you have been designing Entity Relationship Diagrams or UML Diagrams and implementing them in Oracle or Java or .Net or Tibco or even VB you come under Software Engineer.

If someone is just writing software's (coding) in any technology, s/he will fall in Analyst programmer category. If someone is a system programmer, he will fall in Developer Programmer category, if someone is more on business side writing functional specs/requirements documents he falls under Business Analyst category.

I think they have made our life simple by making categories generic and people who were not eligible before can now apply (e.g a delphi/power builder developer). At the same time they are targeting a large group of IT professionals.

Whatever i am saying here is based on my experience in this field and totally is my own point of view. I m not sure about people who already have got their assessments as per old codes but I believe DIAC will clarify all confusions soon.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

i agree with you, according to new codes it would be, im glad i dont need to worry about this. any more.

they have reverted back to the normal codes now.

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

We have the same dilemma.......

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

What about Software testers/Test Engineers?

Any idea which category we belong to?

I am really worried now I don't know whether we'll be assessed positively

Re: Where does ASCO 2231-79 matches to newly annocuned SOL???
 

In real world you fall under Business Analyst. Responsibilities of Business analyst includes documenting requirements spec, functional spec and process flow and then while development, they make sure specification is being followed or not. After the development phase (if not agile) they test the system against their requirements.

You are good for Analyst Programmer too by the way because they are responsible for coding the use cases and test cases.

These are my opinions. I have not seen any list/detail published by DIAC which can explain what they mean for these categories.