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am booked to london on AI 13th may, visa expires 16th. Inter national flights may not fly, if so, what should i do. Home office comes to mind.
I know it may be sorted by then, but just in case. thank you all.

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managed to get 5 year x visa because i married a teacher.
do i register at Panjim within 14 days of arrival if i intend to stay longer than 180 days. thank you.

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Yes. Take with you copies of your wife's documents, passport, visa etc. as your visa is dependent on her status.

(What happened about your AI flight?)

Does your new visa have the 'overstamp' "no need to register if stay less than 180 days"? How is it worded?

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had to reticket with jet.

visa has green overstamp. it reads,,,,

regn req if cont st exceeds 180 days each visit.

i have the mapsa civil reg wedding certificate also.

thank you.

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Thank you for that information about the fact that the overstamp is now there again.

Someone in authority must have realised the problems caused when the overstamp is not there.

My e-mail protests were not answered. I will try to get it added to my visa before next trip.

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Bipat - from what leegrand said this is not the old 'No Reg. req'd if ...' stamp but 'regn req if cont st exceeds 180 days...'

N.B. for many FN's (myself included) the ability to Register within 14 days is a big advantage: a RP is very useful when dealing with Indian bureaucracy - some (e.g.RTO Mapusa) will only accept RP as 'proof of legal presence'/ residence in India. I would advise leegrand to get an RP.

AndyD 8-)₹

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Well said Andy!

Those with PIO/OCI/GANDHI'S LOVECHILD status have no idea what hoops true "foreigners" (ex-pats ??) have to jump through to please the or-thorities.

Its a whole different ball-game but whenever I point this out I get a bucket-full of "this forum is for everyone" so have stopped bothering.


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J5,-- Andy ---- do you actually read previous posts except the last one. I had advised Lee that YES, Yes he should register.

Having married and having now aquired a 5 year X. His visa has an overstamp requiring registration if he intends to stay more than 180 days. THIS IS New compared with last year when there was no over stamp on the visas issued.

I merely thanked him for letting [B]us[/B, everyone know that an overstamp is now back on the 5 year visa.

What is your problem J5 when you have no need of any sort of visa?????

Those of us expats who have duties and obligations to visit aging, ill, relatives and family events may have to go for instant short trips, not just pleasure and these visa differences are important. We are foreigners also.

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Well done Lee - very pleased for you getting your x visa.

J5 - OMG you've set her off again :rofl::rofl:

Dread - x

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With respect Dread, Andy misreads my post and informs me that I should have told Lee to do what I actually in fact did tell him to do.

J5 joins in to congratulate Andy for his mistaken post and takes the chance to complain unpleasantly about PIO's etc. (which Lee has become by marriage (and you say you are pleased).

All from a simple post answering Lee with a yes "do register" and asking him if there was an overstamp on the visa again.

OMG wouldn't you be irritated at a simple exchange of posts turning into a J5 tirade directed at--- "her".

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CHILLAX Bipat - no need to bite peoples' heads off all the time !!! :thumbup:

I'm just pleased Lee can actually live with his wife now and not have to be apart from her every 6 months !!

Dread - x

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reis margos panch wont give me RP tried for ten days with goa licence, electric bill, gas book, bank book, soceity share certjficate, all in my name and address. Advocate demanded it for wedding. It was not to be, BUT,,,

I Learnt from laptop, artilce 2478 only one person of the wedding couple needs it, BINGO. all done.
If there are any problems, will take Maria for a holiday, as shes never had one in her life.

Thank you all for your help.
Mr Happy.

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Lee you have to go to the Foreigner Registration Office in Panjim. You are the foreigner so you have to register if you are staying more than 180 days.
As 10 days have passed you will have to pay a fine for late registration, as before 14 days means getting the registration cert. before then.

Unless you have already done this?

(Many congratulations to you both.)

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Lee just read above again now realise your "won't" meant 'wouldn't', I presume before your wedding :o
So hopefully you have plenty of time to register, you will get your RP then.

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Thought the rest of us didn't read stuff properly?

Lee, when you deal with local authorities, best to get things right?
Its Reis Magos not Margos, and assume you didn't apply to panch (individual "councillor" but either sarpanch "head councillor"or panchayat, actual combined council?

If you dont get things "spot on" in Goa, it will be used as an excuse to jerk you around. Good luck with your plans........


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Good point !!

Lee - the people on here who really know their stuff when it comes to what you have to do for registration as a foreigner are AFD and msj5- both are very helpful on these matters, so if you are having difficulties, I am sure neitehr will mind me suggesting you pm one or the other of them to ask what the best way to approach things is, and to advise exactly what documents you should have prepared.

Dread - x

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Now who's not reading posts? I advised leegrand to register, I didn't say or suggest that you told him not to!
My point for you was that the overstamp he described was not the one that we 'discussed' in earlier posts (roughly #1000 onwards). The stamp as described by leegrand is just re-stating what has been pre-printed on ALL visas for around 10 years. As I recall, the stamp you were bemoaning the absence of was one saying 'Registration not required if stay does not exceed....'

As I said during our previous discussion this is NOT new (see above) - you may recall that I asked you to post a scan of your visa to show how it was different to everyone else's - which you were not able to do. I also said that according to the (confusing) MHA rules you shouldn't have had to register and agreed that a stamp to say that would be useful. To repeat myself, the stamp leegrand describes is not that useful stamp.

AndyD 8-)₹

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Andy, I know it is not the old stamp, I asked Lee for the wording he gave it, I therefore learned that it was different. However---it does have 180 days on it This is different to my visa which has no overstamp at all. It is therefore new.

I do not know how to scan my visa on this thread, but I assured you it had the words, "registration required within 14 days for all visas valid for more than 180 days". With no bl**dy overstamp whatsoever. (That was new then). Note only the words valid for no mention of stay time.
OH has overstamp and Lee's is different now. Apologies for anger but these same arguments go on as though I don't what is on my own visa. In fact I had an e-mail from Consulate saying that no over-stamps were being put. This has obviously changed.

I know about the MHA rules but FRO's were acting differently, if you went to them.
I had planned not to register but k800's post regarding a friend in similar circumstances not able to leave India for a week made me unwilling to risk it. (OH is in slightly frail health then, I didn't want him travelling back alone with luggage).

It is important to us not to have to go through the hassle we had to in Pune as we usually are not settled in one place for first 14 days.
We may have to go back any day now (hopefully) to complete a shared ancestral land deal and would only stay a week or so. The last thing we would want to do would be messing about with registration.

(The land issue has been going on for 25 years!!!! , not due to owners; would happily PM you the intricate details if interested).

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Bipat,

Just wondered, what star sign are you?

I'm a Sagitarian & I like a bloody good row - happy to argue that black's white if the mood takes me. . . . . . . . . . . .

Our business visas expire in November & I'm unsure as to what to do:

1) go really early & come back to the uk before the visas expire.

2) attempt to renew the business visas & hope that we don't get caught up in this registration within so many days of arrival that I've read about (think it happened to friends of 'jcbrum' a while back).

3) apply for 6 month business visas - the above shouldn't be a problem then.

4) sod it, save some cash & apply for a bog standard 6 month tourist visa (fits in with our travel plans anyway).

Decisions, decisions. . . . . . . . . . . . .

Regards

H

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Yes I am also a Sagittarian, but my above post is facts not about arguing black is white.

Sometime before or in 2011 the overstamp was no longer put on 5yr X visas, this was also so in March this year when I tried to get clarification from the Consulate.
From what Lee has said an overstamp is now back on.

Which word you use change, different, new I don't know but because it is not his personal experience Andy doesnt seem to believe me!!

I don't have any experience of business visas, but if anyone has recently renewed theirs perhaps they can tell everyone whether the wretched overstamp regarding registration is there or not.

I have previously renewed a visa in advance, they just cancelled the old one I dont know if you can do this with your business visa.

Regards from fellow Sagittarian

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Save your money Hem - you will have more to spend on Kingfisher and Honey Bee then x :thumbsup: x

Dread - x

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This "should" be extremely good news for those of us that "should" be able to extend X and B visas here,but at present still being run by the same police officers but it does wipe out the Home Office which I believe was the nightmare!


http://www.epaperoheraldo.in/Details...=&dat=6/6/2012

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YES!!!

AndyD 8-)₹

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A friend of ours having been to Dehli to extend his business visa, been through the mill with several sets of local police in Goa, handed over endless papers has now been told by the lady at FRO Panjim that under no circumstances will he get an extension. She said that the business had to have a turnover of at least 1 crore. So its back to the UK again. Thats the third person we know this year who has been refused an extension via Dehli and Goa.

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As always it is how somebody feels on the day when you go for any visa.:thumbdown:

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No afaik the regulations do stipulate a minimum turnover of 1 crore for Business Visa, not difficult for many of the market traders at the Saturday Night market, formerly Ingo's

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Perhaps this is a bit of a crackdown on people getting B visas that don`t have a business and never intend to.People I know who have genuine businesses here have grief getting their visas(they go for new each year as extending has been a nightmare) and people who don`t have any business seem to get 1 yr B visas with no probs whatsoever!

I recently meet an Austrian lady who has lived in Goa for the past 20 years and she has had 4 x 5yr B visas , but always returns to Austria to renew them as too much hassle here!

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See a_f_d's post #3585 on the Buyer Beware thread. The link to the MHA publication which explains the current b visa regs is quite clear about the 1 crore turnover being required to EXTEND a visa.

Chameleons.

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Now confirmed here in Goa at the FRO and Ministry in Panjim and Dehli..for a Business Visa Extension you have to have a business with a turn over of at least 1 crore. Other than that apply in your home country.

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Thanks to you all.
Been offline since 4th, couldnt understand why dongle didnt work, but after 23 years in goa for as long as I could stay, you learn a little. The dongle port was broke, all ok now.
Going for registration Tues,with I dont mind attitude. will let you know after.

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Good luck Lee - just be very firm and insistent

Dread - x

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Hi not sure this is the right thread but just about to apply for our new visas. As we have deeds for an appartment in india are we now permitted to ask for and maybe get a 12month x visa. We have a copy of the Deeds, Sub registrar T form and Challen from the SBI. does any one know if any other information may be required. Thank you for any help here.

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I was asked for letter of approval to purchase from the RBI . I also submitted proof of bank acc, copy of pan card.
Enclose a covering letter saying that you understand that you are now permitted to apply for x visas.
E mail Hayes vfs and ask them what docs you need. They have always been very helpful.
I was only allowed to apply for a 6 month!!

Good luck/

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All the best with the x visa Horse Doctor - I know of 3 people now who have anaged to get a one year x so they are definitely open to this now.

Dread - x

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Thank you for your reply msj5 and dreadsoc. :thumbup:
The interview was very pleasant, the lady was more than helpful and she did not take any money until it was decided which visa we may get.
We handed over every piece of evidence that we have, property deeds in India as well as some pre-paid commitment, electric and telephone etc.
They asked for a duplicate copy of every thing even the reverse side of the pan card and marriage certificate.
All the papers were sent to the consulate in Birmingham then they wanted a covering letter as to why we wished to stay more than 6 months.:thumbdown:
Two weeks later we have been told to re apply for an extended tourist visa only.
Are well it is raining again so we have nothing better to do than to spend a couple of hours going to Birmingham and back.:eek::eek:
Good luck to anyone else that only has property with deeds and wants a 12 month x please let us know how you got on.
Thanks

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They would seem to be breaking their own rules! par for the course.

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From personal experience and many many examples on the forums, Birmingham clearly think they are a law unto themselves and persistently make things up as they go along.

How do they continually get away with it?

Because no-one higher up cares.

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They already had these details - in a file - as requested when we first applied and got our first five year visa. Suppose if I apply again, they will want all the bumfffffff again.

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Sorry to hear you didn`t get an X visa.

Just trying to put some logistics together.....how long do you normally spend in Goa?
Birmingham appears to be the only place where you can actually get to see anyone at the HCI.
I recently heard of another property owner who was refused an X visa via Birmingham but had 1 the previous time! No logic to it really I guess.

I was wondering if they look at your passport ... as in my case ...and see I only spend the minimum time necessary out of the country! ie out on day 179 and back after(as the case was) 62 days but now stipulated on the visa as 60!
As i spend more than 180 days a year in the country and have a permanent residence does it make it a difference? Who knows?

As per there own regulations vis a vie visas...".those who have a residence in India are not entitled to apply for a tourist visa".

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You could take a copy of the MHA FAQ and point out firmly that you are not entitled to a tourist visa: "As per the extant instructions of the Government of India, a Tourist Visa can only be granted to a foreigner who does not have a residence or occupation in India"
when I applied I copied the list of documents requested for X visas for property owners and numbered my submissions accordingly. The two difficult items were the RBI letter and the proof of Registration - I have posted an anonymised version of the standard RBI letter as well as the RBI FAQ where they say they are not the authorising agency. If you had your deeds registered just put a post-it note pointing to the registrar's stamp on the copy of your deeds.
I realise that pushing for an X visa is a lot of effort, sorry* but if you don't do it you are weakening everyone else's case and you are technically breaking the law going on a T visa. (* I mean that)

thanks - AndyD 8-)₹

P.S. when next in Goa apply for an Aadhar card.